Well, its productive that we're brainstorming on the guidelines and suggestions are pouring in. I'm however more concerned about how the representatives will reach to a consensus in their depositions. We have three blind representatives--Advocate mis Palmnani, advocate Mr Rungta and director NIVH Mrs Anuradha Mohit/Dalmia. Along with them, the minutes of thee meeting informed us that representative from NIHH Mumbai also wants strict supervision nothing else. on the otherside we have a number of bureaucrats who are in majority who would represent different ministries and in all probabilities would follow the path directed by the biggest sister UPSC. So what is needed a collective and collaborative deposition by our representatives. I wish representatives arrive on consensus for the common goal. Its gonna be difficult though! On 6/17/15, Kotian, H P <[email protected]> wrote: > Mohib > > Folks, do get disqualified at the interview stage too.It is not that all > those who have cleared the mains would get the job. My contention is even if > a candidate gets through the mains stage, during the interview stage, the > interview is pretty rigourous and those who have come this far as a result > of the scribe, he will not be able to cope with the interview process. His > weakness would definitely show up here. > > The point is, there is also one level of filtering process to which no > accessibility issue plays as far as blind candidates are concerned. This > should give comfort to the UPSC officials. > > We need to drum this point across effectively. > > It does not matter if the interviewer is aware of the written exams score. > > The competition is so very intense, poor showing in the interview would give > little or no hope cracking it. > > To my view this arguement is hypothetical > Harish. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Mohib Anwar Rafay > Sent: 17 June 2015 14:41 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Harish sir, you may not be right what you've mentioned in your first message > of this thread. > If some foul play has been done at mains exam level with the perspective of > UPSC or the candidate, it can not be dealt at the interview level. Because > in UPSC interview is totally separet from mains exam, interviewer don't have > access to the candidate's mains marks . > Suppose a candidate got help from the scribe in improving his answers, he > will get good marks in mains exam, even if he secures lesser marks in > interview, he will be qualified because marit is prepared after combining > both stage's marks. > Now take the reverse scenario, if a candidate has suffered irreparable loss > due to that sarkari scribe, he will get very low marks in mains exam itself, > may be he couldn't qualify for interview just on this basis. Or he got very > poor marks in mains, even he secure fair marks in interview level, he will > not figure in final selection list! > > On 6/17/15, Kotian, H P <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Ishita >> I am responding to your mail on this thread. >> I am unsure, if you have read my comments in the earlier thread. We >> are looking this in a broader issue and plane. The ramification is >> going to be far fetched and it will not be possible to take this up time >> and again. >> >> Let us understand why malpractise cannot be curbed by stricter >> vigilance as you state? According to you what is the way out? How do >> you deal in a subject like accountancy where the scribe does not >> understand how posting should be made? Let us come out with workable >> solutions. >> >> >> Harish Kotian >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Kotian, H P >> Sent: 17 June 2015 11:17 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> All >> >> I am continueing the thread of writer guidelines on a new thread as it >> was causing difficulty because of size issues as a result some posts >> were not reaching the list immediately. >> >> One more significant issue which I missed out in my previous mail, is >> that in the instance of UPSC exams, there is one more level that of >> interview even if one consider for arguement sake,there is some foul >> doing as a result of scribe, UPSC can deal with it in the interview >> round. The capability of the candidate can be determined at this >> stage. 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