Fully agreed with ajay! I even have faced the same issue when I'm persuing B C a.
-----Original Message----- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Ajay Minocha Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2015 10:54 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] [Bulk] Re: Writer guidelines Hi, For your reference, sighting an example. I had a subject called "Option Futures and Other Derivatives" which is only taught in 2nd year in almost all the MBA programs. It does contain a lot of complex equations like "BSOPM", "Measurement of bond Duration, various kinds of yealds etc". How will you explain all these complex fractions to a person who hasn't even seen them before? Wouldn't it waste a lot of your quality time in making him/ her right the equation correctly? Similar issue our friend Kartik has also faced in past. If being a 12th class student he wants the scribe to write fiew formulas which are only in class 12 syllabus then how will he manage to do this in so- called time limit? Wouldn't it cause extra disadvantage to his career? How can he insure that the scribe has written the fraction/ equation correctly? If it is a formula then he can still verify it through the calculations but what about that situation where numbers are not involved? Hope this clarifies things. Regards, Ajay On 6/20/15, Mohib Anwar Rafay <mohibra...@gmail.com> wrote: > I couldn't get your second point. How does the person who knows all > the simbels and notations, is more or over qualified than you? If one > person is pursuing MBA program, cann't he get a scribe who is junior > from the same stream who know how to write those particular symbols? > In academic exams, my argument is that your scribe should not have > passed the same exam at higher level in which you are appearing. Is it > too hard? > Then tell me how the mentality of the sarkari officers would be > changed, who are believing that there are some chances of cheating > etc. if candidate's own senior is writing his exam. > And no authority is ready to accept those guidelines, so called MSJE > guidelines which provide this unreasonable clause. > > On 6/19/15, Ajay Minocha <ajayminoc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> I have following things to say. >> 1. I fully agree with Avinash, Just imposing a bar on qualification >> isn't a full- proof solution to crackdown malpractices by the >> candidates. >> If the incompitant visually impaired people have got jobs in banks by >> greesing the palms of their scribes then it's the flaw of system and >> other candidates can't be left tu suffer because of them. Here I fully >> agree with Harish sir and being a finance student have seen the >> practical side of it in this country's one of the most prestigious >> business school. >> 2. Mohib: It will just make my situation more miserable because the >> person who knows all the simbels and notations correctly is over >> qualified and the other one which is allowed by the examining body >> doesn't know anything. So do you want me to forget about my >> preparation and teach him how to read and right that particular >> content? >> 3. Sanjay: look into the technical part of allowing the candidates to >> use screenreaders. >> Even if the examining bodies insure that every computer terminal has a >> workable copy of NVDA installed then how would you insure that the >> system has been tested for all the bugs from a screen reader user's >> perspective? >> The point I want to make is that usage of screen readers in the exams >> can be optional but can't be cumpulsory at any cost. >> 4. Harish sir: using CCTV survailance can be an option but usage of >> mobile phones and other removable camera devices can be a big concern >> for the examining boddies. So those who can't afford a CCTV have to >> rely on human beings only. >> >> P.s: all of it is a personal opinion and I don't intend to hurt >> anyone's feelings. >> Regards, >> Ajay >> >> On 6/18/15, Misbah <jnu.mis...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> In the era of digital India, I think only way should be to check >>> malpractices in examination is videography. Any other condition like >>> lower educational qualifications may again force back to Stone Age. >>> This present scribe guideline has done a revolutionary change in terms >>> of shifting the blame of malpractice over the system rather than, over >>> the most deprived and neglected poor blind candidates. >>> Hence the responsibility of those who are right now in the realm of >>> the affairs to venture this path very cautiously and open-mindedly. >>> >>> >>> On 6/18/15, sanjay <sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >>>> Most of the group members including the learned ones are simply >>>> legitimising the dependency. Such provisions can create only >>>> inefficient >>>> and unskilled blind mass. Please remember, it was easy for unskilled >>>> people to survive in 19th and 20th century because they did have plenty >>>> of >>>> works to do. But today, the situation has completely changed. Imagine >>>> if >>>> such guidelines are implemented in school and college levels. I knew >>>> about >>>> >>>> a school where writers were also prepared for 10th grade exams with >>>> blind >>>> students before the exams and, in this process, dull students were >>>> ensured >>>> best writers. That school was interested only in grabbing newspaper >>>> headlines by claiming that their blind students did better than all >>>> other >>>> schools in the state. Rest I leave to your imagination. 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