And that is a real difficulty. The wizards should integrate seamlessly. Or the other tools should integrate seamlessly. Take your pick.
I've got a couple of hundred client companies, probably 3 or 4 use SBS. I HATE touching the SBS clients because it's a fair bet there is a wizard for something that I'm not going to use a wizard for, because I can use one of my scripts or a native tool and do it quicker. (You can argue that someone that knows the wizards can do it more quickly with them -- and that's fine -- but I don't, and shouldn't have to.) It's a religious issue. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question) Difficulty? <cough cough> What difficulty? [please feel free to take this offline] the only difficult issues we have in SBSland is cleaning up the messes from folks that don't follow the wizards.... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Thanks! This must be SBS Week. Was at a user's group meeting last night and the topic came up again. (Main topic was R2) Sounds like Microsoft is getting the message about the difficulty of working with SBS. > >Al Maurer >Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information >Technology Agilent Technologies >(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 >http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com >---------------------------------------------- >"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius Caesar III i. > > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, >CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:57 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question) > >Transition pack or www.sbsmigration.com > >Transition pack is the best way however lets you keep the Remote web >workplace and monitoring email even after you break away from SBSland. > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>OK, since the topic came up: I'm trying to figure out how to migrate off SBS2003. >> >>Scenario is a recent acquisition where we want to migrate from company SBS to corporate AD (standard 2003 domain). Trusts are out. Hack is both dangerous and illegal. >> >>MS offers a Transition Pack (for a cost) to upgrade the SBS2003 to normal AD. Is there any other way? LDIF export? >> >>Thanks, >>AL >> >>Al Maurer >>Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information >>Technology Agilent Technologies >>(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639 >>http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com >>---------------------------------------------- >>"Cry 'Havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war" - Anthony, in Julius Caesar III i. >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan >>Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:06 PM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS Server Question >> >>Nope. No trusts, no forests. We're the spoiled only PDC that must >>hold all the FSMO roles. We can do some funky stuff with pass through >>authentication, but no trusts. >> >>US versus THEM: >>http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm >> >>In SBS 2000/2003 the 'correct' terminology is Yes, an 'additional >>domain controller' is supported and not calling it a BDC. >> >>Member servers are covered by the SBS cals but last I read in the PUR >>the additional DC would need server cals. [that's my interpretation >>anyway but I get a headache reading that doc in the first place] >> >>Honestly ...keep in mind that with XPs, they will used cached >>credentials and you can log into that profile even if the network is >>down. Now comes the fun... who's doing the DHCP? The recommended way >>is to have the SBS box to do that...so you still have fun. If the SBS >>box goes down, I normally have ways around the temporarily failure >>[and even then I can count on one hand the time my network has been affected.... >>power mostly, then NICs, then switches, and one harddrive falling off >>a RAID. Get good equipment [and honestly either reinstall those OEMs >>and stay away from those preinstalled versions] and we do just fine. >> >> >> >>Medeiros, Jose wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>>Hi Susan, >>> >>>Since we have an SBS MVP on the Active Dir list, let me ask a question. >>> >>>Can I now make an SBS 2003 server a child domain in an AD 2003 forest? >>> >>>Before you ask why, some one asked me this recently at a Linux users group meeting, as his company has several remote offices using SBS 2003. >>> >>>Also on SBS 4.5, one could have a BDC as a backup, can this also be done with a DC or are you " Sh.T out of luck " when a box fails? >>> >>>Jose >>> >>> >>>List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx >>>List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx >>>List archive: >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Letting your vendors set your risk analysis these days? http://www.threatcode.com List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
