Amen brother.

I wish though you would be more specific though as I just happen to be meeting with some folks next week and would love the inside from big server land. [Please feel free to ping me directly]

Our OU structure sucks. We know that. But ...boy ... you ain't ripping my fingers off RWW or my monitoring email. :-)

Michael B. Smith wrote:

And that is a real difficulty.

The wizards should integrate seamlessly. Or the other tools should
integrate seamlessly. Take your pick.

I've got a couple of hundred client companies, probably 3 or 4 use SBS.
I HATE touching the SBS clients because it's a fair bet there is a
wizard for something that I'm not going to use a wizard for, because I
can use one of my scripts or a native tool and do it quicker. (You can
argue that someone that knows the wizards can do it more quickly with
them -- and that's fine -- but I don't, and shouldn't have to.)

It's a religious issue.

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CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 12:19 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)

Difficulty?

<cough cough>

What difficulty?  [please feel free to take this offline] the only
difficult issues we have in SBSland is cleaning up the messes from folks
that don't follow the wizards....

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks!  This must be SBS Week.  Was at a user's group meeting last
night and the topic came up again. (Main topic was R2)  Sounds like
Microsoft is getting the message about the difficulty of working with
SBS.
Al Maurer
Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies
(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,

CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS migration (was SBS Server Question)

Transition pack or www.sbsmigration.com

Transition pack is the best way however lets you keep the Remote web workplace and monitoring email even after you break away from SBSland.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



OK, since the topic came up:  I'm trying to figure out how to migrate
off SBS2003.
Scenario is a recent acquisition where we want to migrate from company
SBS to corporate AD (standard 2003 domain).  Trusts are out.  Hack is
both dangerous and illegal.
MS offers a Transition Pack (for a cost) to upgrade the SBS2003 to
normal AD.  Is there any other way?  LDIF export?
Thanks,
AL

Al Maurer
Service Manager, Naming and Authentication Services IT | Information Technology Agilent Technologies
(719) 590-2639; Telnet 590-2639
http://activedirectory.it.agilent.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 12:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] SBS Server Question

Nope. No trusts, no forests. We're the spoiled only PDC that must hold all the FSMO roles. We can do some funky stuff with pass through

authentication, but no trusts.

US versus THEM:
http://www.sbslinks.com/Us_v_them.htm

In SBS 2000/2003 the 'correct' terminology is Yes, an 'additional domain controller' is supported and not calling it a BDC.

Member servers are covered by the SBS cals but last I read in the PUR the additional DC would need server cals. [that's my interpretation anyway but I get a headache reading that doc in the first place]

Honestly ...keep in mind that with XPs, they will used cached credentials and you can log into that profile even if the network is down. Now comes the fun... who's doing the DHCP? The recommended way is to have the SBS box to do that...so you still have fun. If the SBS

box goes down, I normally have ways around the temporarily failure [and even then I can count on one hand the time my network has been
affected....
power mostly, then NICs, then switches, and one harddrive falling off a RAID. Get good equipment [and honestly either reinstall those OEMs and stay away from those preinstalled versions] and we do just fine.



Medeiros, Jose wrote:



Hi Susan,

Since we have an SBS MVP on the Active Dir list, let me ask a
question.
Can I now make an SBS 2003 server a child domain in an AD 2003
forest?
Before you ask why, some one asked me this recently at a Linux users
group meeting, as his company has several remote offices using SBS 2003.
Also on SBS 4.5, one could have a BDC as a backup, can this also be
done with a DC or are you " Sh.T out of luck " when a box fails?
Jose


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