I wish it as that easy. Dysfunctional silo'ed government organizations make simple things like moving hardware to a new task a monumental task. Especially when there are use restrictions on funds used to purchase things.
Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Murray Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:19 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement Most organisations (including yours perhaps?) could plan to redeploy current Exchange hardware elsewhere if it's not quite end-of-life by the time they're ready to deploy E12. Not all systems will have the 64 bit requirement in the time frame we are talking about, so you are likely to have some flexibility if you have other servers that you need to hardware refresh in the meantime. Just a thought. Tony -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond Sent: Wednesday, 16 November 2005 2:33 p.m. To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement I see this environment lasting pas the E12 timeline. It has a ton of room to grow in all aspects of the hardware. This seems like the sort of thing that they needed to have announced a while ago. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement How long before you expect to upgrade? And how does that compare with the hardware lifecycle? If you find a way to future proof anything in this business, please let the rest of us know. :) As for Joe's question: are there other packages available? Yep. But as with anything it depends on what you want to accomplish and your tolerance for changes. One option might be the open source version of http://www.zimbra.com/products/index.html which implements what looks to be a popular new path - AJAX. There are other open source projects out there as well, but sometimes you really do get what you pay for. -ajm >From: "Brian Desmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: <[email protected]> >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement >Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:00:26 -0500 > >Neither do I. We just put in a 400K dollar Exchange 2003 environment like >18 >months ago. I don't think the client is going to be thrilled to hear that >was all a waste as it will only run one version of Exchange. > > > >Thanks, >Brian Desmond > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >c - 312.731.3132 > > > > > > _____ > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:03 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement > > > >Wow. I don't recall Muglia making that statement at the summit, I think he >would have been beaten up pretty bad.... > > > > > >"Muglia made several product announcements during his keynote address. > > > >As part of its commitment to 64-bit computing, Microsoft has been >delivering >products that are optimized for 64-bit, including the newly released SQL >ServerT 2005, Visual StudioR 2005 and Virtual Server 2005 R2. To help >customers take full advantage of the power of 64-bit computing, products >including MicrosoftR Exchange Server "12," Windows Compute Cluster Server >2003, Windows ServerT "Longhorn" Small Business Server, and Microsoft's >infrastructure solution for midsize businesses, code-named "Centro," will >be >exclusively 64-bit and optimized for x64 hardware. In a future update >release to Microsoft's upcoming Windows Server "Longhorn" operating system, >code-named Windows Server "Longhorn" R2, customers will see the complete >transition to 64-bit-only hardware, while still benefiting from 32-bit and >64-bit application compatibility. For the highest-scale application and >database workloads, Windows Server on 64-bit Itanium-based systems will >continue to be the premier choice for customers for years to come." > > > >The LH SBS package is pretty funny too... Imagine going into all of those >small companies and telling them they don't have a choice but to buy a new >server when they want to get the new security enhancements. > > > >I hope MS decides to support K3 and Exchange K3 for some time. Though I am >already seeing a huge reduced emphasis and making K3 work right now. > > > >Any good non-GNU message/collaboration apps out there? Something with maybe >a BSD license? > > > > joe > > > > > > _____ > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Desmond >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:03 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement > >Where'd you find that? > > > >Thanks, >Brian Desmond > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >c - 312.731.3132 > > > > > > _____ > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip >Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 3:33 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; >[email protected] >Subject: [ActiveDir] Microsofts Exchange Server 12 64 bit announcement > > > >This just in: > >"As some of you are attending IT Forum in Barcelona, I want to make sure >those of you who are not get the latest updates. At IT Forum, Microsoft >will >announce broad support for 64 bit across many of its product lines. As part >of that announcement we will be announcing that Exchange 12 will be 64 bit >only. This is a significant decision for us and it is one that we did not >make lightly. Many of you and your customers may have questions about why >Exchange 12 will be 64 bit only and the mail below provides some background >on the factors that lead to this decision and also the benefits from 64 bit >that we are seeing in our early dog food & TAP deployments." > > > >Martin Tuip > >MVP Exchange > List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/ListFAQ.aspx List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ This communication, including any attachments, is confidential. 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