Nothing doing. I tried it on a 3-year old Proliant DL. I couldn't find any USB settings, not in the boot order, not in the boot selections, not anywhere. It's back to the old switch and bai...er...boot

----- Original Message ----- From: "Albert Duro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies


That's a great revelation. Thank you. I'll try it first thing in the morning.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura A. Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 2:25 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies


Remember when I asked about the BIOS? :-)

http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/usb-boot.mspx

You can check out the links at the end for more information, but again, this
is set in the BIOS of the machine.

Laura

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Anderson
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 4:03 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies

Susan,
How did you do that I would love to be able to  reboot
with a worry.


Bob
IT Guy


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:04 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies

And on my DC I removed the USB drive as a boot device.

So now I can be at home in my jammies and remotely reboot the server
with no issues and it will reboot just fine.

Bob Anderson wrote:
> Laura,
> Yea that on bit me big time.  Had our Domain Controller running
and
> added a USB Drive all was fine.  Along came Microsoft with
the darned
> Updates and there 'Computer Must be restarted' Well it restarted
> alright and would not reboot.  Talked to IBM Server Support for 4
> hours be for I finally figured it out myself.  That was the
only time
> I ever taught something to them and not the other way around.
>
> I have since update the restart procedure to say 'Power off the USB
> drive before the system restarts.'
>
>
> Bob
> IT Guy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
> Robinson
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:41 AM
> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies
>
> Umm, that was kinda the point I was trying to make, Bob. :-)
>
> Laura
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Bob Anderson
>> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:09 AM
>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies
>>
>> Laura,
>> It doesn't matter what the boot order is. Most servers have an
>> internal Raid configuration that doesn't kick in until after the
>> machine goes through it's start up and by them it has
found the USB
>> and not the hard disks.
>>
>> And yes I have this on two of my servers.
>>
>> Bob Anderson
>> IT Guy
>> Kent Sporting Goods
>> 433 Park Ave. S
>> New London OH 44851
>> 419-929-7021 x315
>> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A.
>> Robinson
>> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:52 AM
>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>> Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies
>>
>> What's the boot order in the BIOS on those machines?
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Albert Duro
>>> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:54 AM
>>> To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies
>>>
>>> Ah, that brings up another interesting point.  I use USB
>>>
>> external hard
>>
>>
>>> drives too, and I've found that some WinXP and
>>> Server2003 machines will not boot if a USB hard drive is
>>>
>> attached--I
>>
>>> have to remember to turn it off while booting.
>>> Anyone else seen this?
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]"
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: <ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 9:02 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies (was) Exchange
>>>
>> Log files
>>
>>> --Disk
>>> Full--
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> No tape drives here.  If it has a USB connection we are
>>>>
>> in business.
>>
>>>> Albert Duro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, BE does do disk backup.  But I have some objections:
>>>>>  A.  They don't make it easy, infact they make an unnecessarily
>>>>> complicated production of it.
>>>>>  B.  I started doing NTBackup to disk while (and because)
>>>>>
>>> I was still
>>>
>>>>> troubleshooting BE.  When I gave up on BE and its
>>>>>
>>> brethren, NTBackup
>>>
>>>>> was a natural segway, and already in place and working.
>>>>>  C.  I discovered one great advantage that
>>>>>
>>> NTBackup-to-disk has over
>>>
>>>>> any other backup system:  with a bit of planning, it is
>>>>>
>>> proof against
>>>
>>>>> almost any combination of crash and burn. You have a
>>>>>
>>> backup file on
>>>
>>>>> two or more disks/machines.  Things go bad, you can do
>>>>>
>>> recovery from
>>>
>>>>> any Windows machine; you can move or copy the backup
>>>>>
>>> disks/files to
>>>
>>>>> any machine.  Try doing that with a sophisticated tape-based or
>>>>> SAN-based system.  Imagine having to replace the tape
>>>>> drive/autoloader with the exact same type, while rebuilding a
>>>>> same-hardware three-year old server to the exact same
>>>>>
>>> configuration,
>>>
>>>>> same SPs, same backup software, same drivers.  I can
>>>>>
>>> guarantee that
>>>
>>>>> at least one of those necessary replacement elements will be
>>>>> impossible to find, even under leisurely conditions. [1]
>>>>>
>>> Yes, there
>>>
>>>>> are strategies to deal with that, but if you could spend
>>>>>
>>> that kind of
>>>
>>>>> money, you would have gotten a double-redundant
>>>>>
>>> bullet-proof system in the first place.
>>>
>>>>>  I truly hope that I'm wrong out of lack of knowledge and
>>>>>
>>> pessimism.
>>>
>>>>> I am open to being corrected and encouraged.
>>>>>  [1] Naturally, the tape drive drivers will be on the same
>>>>>
>>> tape that
>>>
>>>>> you can't access nohow.  Download the drivers from the
>>>>>
>>> OEM, you say?
>>>
>>>>> Chances are excellent that the OEM has gone out of
>>>>>
>>> business, or sold
>>>
>>>>> out to a giant  who prunes out what they don't like (and
>>>>>
>> what you
>>
>>>>> need), or changed the name or version number on it out of sheer
>>>>> orneryness.  If you do get to what looks like the right
drivers,
>>>>> you're likely to find that the last minor upgrade version
>>>>>
>>> that really
>>>
>>>>> worked well for you has been dropped, or tweaked into
>>>>>
>> your trouble
>>
>>>>> zone.  I can testify to ALL these experiences.  I think
>>>>>
>>> others can too.
>>>
>>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>>     *From:* Al Mulnick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>     *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>     <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>>>     *Sent:* Thursday, November 02, 2006 3:27 PM
>>>>>     *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] OT - Backup Follies (was)
>>>>>
>>> Exchange Log
>>>
>>>>>     files --Disk Full--
>>>>>
>>>>>     Trying to remember exactly, but doesn't BE have an
>>>>>
>>> option to use
>>>
>>>>>     disk vs. tape drives?
>>>>>
>>>>>     You *could* run a test to help simplify and rule out
>>>>>
>>> some of the
>>>
>>>>>     complexity. Could take a while, but might be worth it.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Al
>>>>>
>>>>>     On 11/2/06, *Albert Duro* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         Why does NTBackup work for me and BE not, when
>>>>>
>> they are at
>>
>>>>>         core the same product?
>>>>>         I wondered about that too.  Here are my thoughts.
>>>>>         First, NTBackup is a simpler product that doesn't
>>>>>
>>> get tangled
>>>
>>>>>         up with the complexities of scheduling and a GUI.
>>>>>         But the real reason, I think, is that I've been doing
>>>>>         NTBackups to disk, while BE was to tape.
>>>>>         I've always suspected that most, if not all of my
>>>>>
>>> difficulties
>>>
>>>>>         with BE had to do with the drivers for the tape
>>>>>
>> drives and
>>
>>>>>         autoloaders, and with the SCSI interface to
other devices
>>>>>         ('other' being anything beyond the normal HD and CD
>>>>> complement)
>>>>>
>>>>>             ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>             *From:* Al Mulnick <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>             *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>             <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>>>             *Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:11 AM
>>>>>             *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange Log files --Disk
>>>>> Full--
>>>>>
>>>>>             Well put Albert.  Thanks for that feedback.
>>>>>             What still has me curious is why BE wouldn't
>>>>>
>>> work in your
>>>
>>>>>             environment and why ntbackup does (partially
>>>>>
>>> at least).
>>>
>>>>> ntbackup as written by the same exact people and has a lot
>>>>>             of the same code (it's licensed by Microsoft
>>>>>
>>> from Seagate
>>>
>>>>>             last I checked). Ntbackup is the less
>>>>>
>> featured version
>>
>>>>>             designed for single host backups and extended
>>>>>
>>> to act like
>>>
>>>>>             it does more.
>>>>>
>>>>>             So that said, I agree that the goal is that
>>>>>
>>> your client's
>>>
>>>>>             data is backed up.  I have to say that I
>>>>>
>> disagree that
>>
>>>>>             jury-rigs, mickey mouse and by the seat of
>>>>>
>>> your pants is
>>>
>>>>>             the long term solution though.  That's an
>>>>>
>>> infrastructure
>>>
>>>>>             component that will come back to haunt at some
>>>>>
>>> point down
>>>
>>>>>             the road.  As an interim fix, of course it can
>>>>>
>>> work.  I'm
>>>
>>>>>             not blinded by the big vendors to the point
>>>>>
>>> that I think
>>>
>>>>>             they have the only solution.  Far from it.
>>>>>
>>> But I like to
>>>
>>>>>             think that I can at least share some perspective and
>>>>>             experience related to where it leads and I
definitely
>>>>>             favor technology over layer8 processes.
Why?  Because
>>>>>             layer8 changes and grows out of current
positions and
>>>>>             foundational solutions should not have to be
>>>>>
>> decimated
>>
>>>>>             when that happens.  I've seen that way too
>>>>>
>>> often to care
>>>
>>>>>             to see it continue where possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>             Basically, I hate to see a foundational
>>>>>
>>> solution such as
>>>
>>>>>             backup, rely on such complexity and human
>>>>>
>>> intervention.  I
>>>
>>>>>             completely understand that you have to do what
>>>>>
>>> you have to
>>>
>>>>>             do. When you wrote it in your original email,
>>>>>
>>> it sounded
>>>
>>>>>             like you approved of that method.  Reading
>>>>>
>>> this last one,
>>>
>>>>>             I can you don't.  I was just trying to point
>>>>>
>> out where
>>
>>>>>             that leads and trying to understand how you go
>>>>>
>>> there.  I
>>>
>>>>>             bet I would have gotten there the same way
you did ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>             Best of luck getting that worked out.
>>>>>             If you need anything from me, please don't
>>>>>
>> hesitate.  I
>>
>>>>>             have been known to make some backup
>>>>>
>> solutions work :)
>>
>>>>> Feel free to ping off-line if I can be of any help.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 10/31/06, *Albert Duro* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Al, since you ask, no I don't see it
>>>>>
>>> differently, at
>>>
>>>>>                 least not at the oratorical level.  But
where the
>>>>>                 rubber meets the road, things can look
>>>>>
>>> very different.
>>>
>>>>>                 Like the military say, the best laid plan
>>>>>
>>> falls apart
>>>
>>>>>                 the moment it meets the enemy.  You
assume that I
>>>>>                 monkey around with Ntbackup and balky media for
>>>>>                 economic reasons.  In fact, we spared no expense
>>>>>                 (relative to our small size) to put in
>>>>>                 industrial-strength backup systems, both
>>>>>
>>> software and
>>>
>>>>>                 hardware.  Even paid consultants to set
it up and
>>>>>                 manage it.
>>>>>                 It blew up in our faces.  Primarily
>>>>>
>> because Backup
>>
>>>>>                 Exec just wouldn't work right in our
>>>>>
>> environment.
>>
>>>>> (I'm not saying that BE isn't a fine product, it would
>>>>>                 just never work for us).  Why not?
>>>>>
>> Don't know -- I
>>
>>>>>                 couldn't figure it out.  Our
consultants couldn't
>>>>>                 figure it out.  Veritas support couldn't
>>>>>
>>> either, nor
>>>
>>>>>                 the autoloader manufacturer.  For more
>>>>>
>>> than two years,
>>>
>>>>>                 nobody could figure it out, until I
>>>>>
>> decided to stop
>>
>>>>>                 throwing good money after bad.
>>>>>                 Did I try alternative products?  In the
>>>>>
>> same class,
>>
>>>>>                 yes -- more tales of woe, but different
>>>>>
>>> reasons.  We
>>>
>>>>>                 did not nor are we going to buy the
>>>>>
>>> high-end systems,
>>>
>>>>>                 which cost more than our whole network is worth.
>>>>>                 So I was left with NTBackup, and admittedly a
>>>>>                 little more gun-shyness about brand-name backup
>>>>>                 products than is strictly rational.
>>>>>
>> That's what I
>>
>>>>>                 have to work with, and I try to make the
>>>>>
>>> best of it.
>>>
>>>>> That's the 'real world' in my little corner of it.
>>>>>                 Believe me, when you and joe and others on
>>>>>
>>> this list
>>>
>>>>>                 urge us to 'make the best', I listen, I
>>>>>
>>> learn, and I
>>>
>>>>>                 applaud.  And it does push me in that
>>>>>
>>> direction.  But
>>>
>>>>>                 the only path there goes through 'make
>>>>>
>> the best of
>>
>>>>>                 what you've got'.  It's bumpy and often
>>>>>
>> barricaded.
>>
>>>>>                 But after all is said and done, the REAL
>>>>>
>>> point is that
>>>
>>>>>                 I am preserving my clients' data and
keeping them
>>>>>                 happy.  Jury-rigs, mickey mouse, and
>>>>>
>>> by-the-pants not
>>>
>>>>>                 withstanding.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 -- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>>                     *From:* Al Mulnick
>>>>>
>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>>>                     *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>                     <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>>>                     *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2006 4:30 AM
>>>>>                     *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir] Exchange
Log files
>>>>>                     --Disk Full--
>>>>>
>>>>>                     sub-optimal media are part of the
real world?
>>>>>                      Wow, thanks :)
>>>>>                      Truth be told, that's a rant of mine.
>>>>>
>>>  I've heard
>>>
>>>>>                     a lot (lately especially) about how we
>>>>>
>>> want to do
>>>
>>>>>                     things cheap and inexpensive and
we'll fix it
>>>>>                     later and so on. I've also spent a
>>>>>
>>> great deal of
>>>
>>>>>                     time cleaning up that kind of stuff.
>>>>> Unfortunately, once it escapes into the "real
>>>>>                     world" then it becomes more difficult
>>>>>
>>> to clean up
>>>
>>>>>                     because you have to do so in front of
>>>>>                     customers/clients.
>>>>>                      Interesting approach though. Usually a less
>>>>>                     disciplined from what I've seen and
>>>>>
>>> often results
>>>
>>>>>                     in more expense related to downtime and
>>>>>                     troubleshooting and lack of service.  I'm
>>>>>                     interested if you see differently though.
>>>>>                      This area of the business fascinates me....
>>>>>
>>>>>                      On 10/28/06, *Albert Duro*
>>>>>                     <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>                     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                         I'm sure you and Susan are
>>>>>
>> right.  All I'm
>>
>>>>>                         saying is that it *can* happen,
>>>>>
>> and for me,
>>
>>>>>                         why take the chance when
>>>>>
>>> one-job/one-task  is
>>>
>>>>>                         easy to do.
>>>>>                         Good point about the media, and that may
>>>>>                         explain my case, but, hey,
>>>>>
>>> sub-optimal media
>>>
>>>>>                         situations are part of the real world.
>>>>>
>>>>>                             ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>                             *From:* Al Mulnick
>>>>>                             <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>                             *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>
<mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>>>                             *Sent:* Saturday, October 28,
>>>>>
>>> 2006 6:33 AM
>>>
>>>>>                             *Subject:* Re: [ActiveDir]
>>>>>
>> Exchange Log
>>
>>>>>                             files --Disk Full--
>>>>>
>>>>>                              I've not had that same experience.
>>>>> Granted, it's a limited feature utility
>>>>>                             (note the use of the word
>>>>>
>>> utility vs. tool
>>>
>>>>>                             as requested) but it's still
>>>>>
>> capable of
>>
>>>>>                             doing more.  There were
some fixes to
>>>>>                             ntbackup in service packs and
>>>>>
>>> such.  You
>>>
>>>>>                             might want to verify you're
using the
>>>>>                             latest version of that's
>>>>>
>> what you see.
>>
>>>>>                              Also, check the media it's
>>>>>
>> headed to.
>>
>>>>> It's error handling is not very elegant,
>>>>>                             but I've found it to be useful
>>>>>
>>> and strong
>>>
>>>>>                             enough to stand up to some
>>>>>
>>> complex tasks
>>>
>>>>>                             in the past. I've got several
>>>>>
>>> running now
>>>
>>>>>                             via cli that have been in
>>>>>
>>> place for more
>>>
>>>>>                             than half a year without issue
>>>>>
>>> (I know, I
>>>
>>>>>                             know, spend all that money on an
>>>>>                             enterprise backup system
>>>>>
>> only to backup
>>
>>>>>                             some machines locally.  But
there are
>>>>>                             times when it makes more
>>>>>
>>> sense, trust me.)
>>>
>>>>>                              -ajm
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>                              On 10/27/06, *Albert Duro*
>>>>>                             <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>                                 I've found, with NTbackup,
>>>>>
>>> that if you
>>>
>>>>>                                 cram two or more tasks
>>>>>
>>> into a backup
>>>
>>>>>                                 job, it's very likely to
>>>>>
>> fail. For
>>
>>>>>                                 example, if you do a
>>>>>
>>> System State and
>>>
>>>>>                                 a file backup and an
>>>>>
>>> Exchange backup
>>>
>>>>>                                 in the same job.  It's best to
>>>>>                                 separate each task into
>>>>>
>>> its own job,
>>>
>>>>>                                 and sort it out in the
>>>>>
>> scheduling.
>>
>>>>>                                 A mixed job will also work
>>>>>
>>> for a while
>>>
>>>>>                                 and then fail, which
>>>>>
>>> sounds like what
>>>
>>>>>                                 happened to OP.
>>>>>
>>>>>                                     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>                                     *From:* Wells, James Arthur
>>>>>                                     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>                                     *To:*
>>>>>
>>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>
>>>>>                                     *Cc:* Technical Support
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>
>>>>>                                     *Sent:* Thursday,
>>>>>
>>> October 26, 2006
>>>
>>>>>                                     2:21 PM
>>>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir]
>>>>>                                     Exchange Log files
>>>>>
>>> --Disk Full--
>>>
>>>>>                                      Do you have multiple
>>>>>
>>> information
>>>
>>>>>                                     stores on this
>>>>>
>> storage group?
>>
>>>>> (If using Exchange Enterprise
>>>>>                                     edition)...the logs
>>>>>
>> can't flush
>>
>>>>>                                     until all stores have a full
>>>>>                                     backup, because the logs are
>>>>>                                     shared...
>>>>>                                      --James
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------
>>>
>>>>>                                     *From:*
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>                                     [mailto:
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>>>>>                                     *On Behalf Of
>>>>>
>>> *Technical Support
>>>
>>>>>                                     *Sent:* Thursday,
>>>>>
>>> October 26, 2006
>>>
>>>>>                                     3:16 PM
>>>>>                                     *To:*
>>>>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>;
>>>>>                                     ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>
>>>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir]
>>>>>                                     Exchange Log files
>>>>>
>>> --Disk Full--
>>>
>>>>>                                      Hi,
>>>>>                                      I am running Normal
>>>>>
>>> Backup. Using
>>>
>>>>>                                     NTBackup Utility. Backing up
>>>>>                                     Information store.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------
>>>
>>>>>                                     *From:*
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>                                     on behalf of Missy Koslosky
>>>>>                                     *Sent:* Thu
>>>>>
>> 10/26/2006 12:49 PM
>>
>>>>>                                     *To:*
>>>>>
>>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>
>>>>>                                     *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir]
>>>>>                                     Exchange Log files
>>>>>
>>> --Disk Full--
>>>
>>>>>                                      Are you running full
>>>>>
>>> (AKA normal)
>>>
>>>>>                                     backups every night?
>>>>>
>>> It seems not.
>>>
>>>>>                                     Use NTBackup to
>>>>>
>> backup to disk
>>
>>>>>                                     (obviously, you'll
>>>>>
>> need a disk
>>
>>>>>                                     with over 120GB of available
>>>>>                                     space) and then use whatever
>>>>>                                     normal program you
>>>>>
>> use to back
>>
>>>>>                                     that backup onto tape.
>>>>>
>>> This will
>>>
>>>>>                                     keep you running
>>>>>
>> until you sort
>>
>>>>>                                     out why your normal backup
>>>>>                                     software isn't
>>>>>
>>> flushing the logs
>>>
>>>>>                                     when the backup completes.
>>>>>                                      How are you
>>>>>
>> currently running
>>
>>>>>                                     backups? What software
>>>>>
>>> is in use?
>>>
>>>>>                                     Are you sure it's
>>>>>
>>> Exchange aware?
>>>
>>>>>                                     Are you doing brick
>>>>>
>>> level backups
>>>
>>>>>                                     or copy backups
>>>>>
>>> instead of a full
>>>
>>>>>                                     backup? Neither will
>>>>>
>>> flush the logs.
>>>
>>>>>                                      I'd resolve this as
>>>>>
>> quickly as
>>
>>>>>                                     possible, because if
>>>>>
>>> you are in a
>>>
>>>>>                                     situation where you
>>>>>
>>> have to replay
>>>
>>>>>                                     the logs, you're NOT
>>>>>
>>> going to be a
>>>
>>>>>                                     happy camper.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>> ----------
>>>
>>>>>                                     *From:*
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>                                     [mailto:
>>>>>
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>>>>>                                     *On Behalf Of
>>>>>
>>> *Technical Support
>>>
>>>>>                                     *Sent:* Thursday,
>>>>>
>>> October 26, 2006
>>>
>>>>>                                     11:09 AM
>>>>>                                     *To:*
>>>>>
>>> ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> <mailto:ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org>
>>>
>>>>>                                     *Subject:*
>>>>>
>> [ActiveDir] Exchange
>>
>>>>>                                     Log files --Disk Full--
>>>>>
>>>>>                                      Hi All,
>>>>>                                      Kindly suggest,
>>>>>
>> what i can do
>>
>>>>>                                     about my Exchange Log files?
>>>>>                                     I have about 120 GB
>>>>>
>>> Log files for
>>>
>>>>>                                     past 4 months. I have
>>>>>
>>> a few doubts:-
>>>
>>>>>                                      Do i really need all
>>>>>
>>> those log
>>>
>>>>> files?
>>>>>                                     If yes, Then how is it
>>>>>
>>> possible to
>>>
>>>>>                                     manage with this as i
>>>>>
>>> have a very
>>>
>>>>>                                     limited space left.
>>>>>                                     Can i delete these
log files?
>>>>>                                     Backup doesnt remove
>>>>>
>>> these log files?
>>>
>>>>>                                      i am really running
>>>>>
>>> out of space
>>>
>>>>>                                     on my Exchange log
>>>>>
>>> storage drive.
>>>
>>>>>                                      *Thanks!!!*
>>>>>                                     Ravi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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