Thamer Al-Harbash wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jul 2002, laLune wrote: > > >>Segregating them is not going to help the problem. They've got to just >>know that they can come out and do what they do and that gender doesn't >>even come into it. They don't need their own private club. > > > It's not about segregation. I've seen a presentation at a LUG by a > female. Surprisingly there were more women in the audience than > usual. I'm pretty certain the all-male-dominated meetings don't > exactly draw out the young 21 year old hackeress who is considering > installing Linux and hacking GNOME. The simple fact is if you bring > women together they seem to click on a completely different level > than men. > > I've been accused of wanting to date this whole SIG I've considered > starting up, and I've been accused of what seems like prejudice > toward women. If I continue I fear I'll be slandered more. > > You know what? I'm hoping a stalwart and adventerous geek girl > starts up something in Toronto and other major cities across Canada > to do more than just subscribe to mailing lists and give "C > courses." I'm certainly stepping away from this ticking time bomb. > > How positively silly. Shame on you Dee-Ann. >
What Im sorry to see is the line of discussion around this suggestion but I come from a time where gender issues on a personal and professional level were minimal. The 70's were such a good time..;) Durring my formative years it did not matter what or who you were, it was about your level of social contribution regardless of gender or social status. But thats a different story and the times have changed significantly. What I find unproductive is all the "discussion" around gender issues and the lack of forward momentum for the sake of PC'ness. I support anyones perspective on this singualar issue provided they turn their perspectives into positive actions as actions always speak louder than words. Look, if you want to do this just do it and see where it goes. There is no better teacher than experience. The rest is commentary and observation. Im sure as you progess down this line, it will be self correcting as long as your motives are sincere. There is no substitute for genuineness regardless of gender. The only thing I would suggest you cannot do at this time, is associate the events with CLUE as 1) CLUE as an entity does not really exist yet. (thats what we are all doing here) 2) there is no formal approvals process in currently in place (at least that I am aware off). So in short I would say check your motives and once you resolve its worth your time, the rest is self evident. Then if successfull re-introduce it to CLUE for SIG approval at the appropriate time. At minimum you will have accomplished a personal goal. Chris H. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
