I surprised to see this topic still going, so I thought I'd give it another look. I was real surprised by the 2 comments listed here... It's meaning is pretty clear to me.. but who knows, i only have a GED, so I might have it wrong, lol. Lets see, on Sept 10, 2001 (when watching something, try to absorb as much info as possible.. think of the dates on the spots as 'clues'), two kids got into a fight about something. What were they fighting about? who cares? Next sequence is the World Trade Center bombings video being watched by the some kids. The next sequence has date too, Sept. 12, 2001(hmmmm...... ), and shows the 2 kids from the first sequence shaking hands, exchanging words, and then heading toward the US Marines recruiting center... Duhhhhh... OK, I'ma apply some GED math to this.. Two kids fight over something one day, America is attacked the next day, the following day, the kids put aside their differences and join the Marines. Hmmm.... looks like a recruiting spot to me. Sometimes when examining the bark of a tree, some miss the forest entirely. There's a lot more to the production of video than technical mastery. There is also the use of symbolism, unfortunately, sometimes it is culture specific.. A buddhist, might not get the christian symbolism inherent to western art, and a christian might not get the taoist references that are in many eastern arts.. I like to watch foreign movies, for just that reason. I'm surprised that these people didn't 'get it'. Maybe you had to be here on Sept 11, 2001, to 'get it'. But hey, what do i know? I don't have any degrees in this stuff.. but like most americans, I don't need anyones permission or approval to do it anyway.. Also, unsteady shots are quite the norm, now, at least here... Think NYPD Blue. The eye is not allowed to rest, anxiety is increased in the veiwer, and a greater sense of being 'present' is created in the veiwer. Sounds appropriate for the sequence of them watching the TV (not sure if it was done intentionally or not though, in this case, but it can easily be argued as an artistice choice). I also think that the viewers in this country are used to it now, and that any unsteadiness in the camera work in this spot is overlooked as people try to figure out what it means.. Which is what you want to do in film anyway.. make the viewer think, and keep watching until they have figured it out or finally 'got it' . Like I said, I'm just guessing, I only have a GED, so I could be wrong. And I've been to movies with people that didn't 'get it'. They unvariably didn't like the movie. I had to say all that, Lance, because I got some nasty remarks from some folks across the pond about my stuff too. Don't worry, I think it just speaks to the resentment of americans in the rest of the world right now. Misery loves company. Frank thanks sune! at least you knew i was joking. by the way here's something not mentioned about the "poorman's steadicam". you have to be careful because the t-connectors rust. sounds ridiculous because it's supposed to be plumbing, but i'm looking at mine right now. so tomorrow i'm going to clean it, get some naval jelly and paint it. did you ever figure out how to make yours?
--- In [email protected], Sune Alexandersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lancer777" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 9:29 PM > Subject: Re: [AP] all right now i feel like frank > > > > wow you all are picky. did you say this when you watched "Rush Hour > > 2"??? Lee and Carter are running across the street to tell Isabella > > that she was given a bomb. look at all the sway in that shot and that > > was done with a full-rig steadicam. > > > > and in all artistic matters on sept 11 it was exaggerated (using > > image pan) and on purpose to make you feel uneasy. guess we > > succeeded. ;-) > > > > ironic - the two most negative comments came from non-US citizens :-D > > What's ironic about that? I hope we're not getting political;) > > Sune > > > take all this in gest. > > > > --- In [email protected], howard Michael > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Just like Julian I have watched this and have actually no idea what > > it is about. I suspect it another product of one of the 28 billion > > people who are doing media studies. There will soon be more people > > making films (sorry videos)) that there are viewers. Sorry don't > > understand it..... it wobbles unexceptably. Most redeeming feature it > > was very short. > >> Howard > >> Cape Town > >> > >> Julian Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:57:47 -0000 > >> From: "lancer777" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: all right now i feel like frank > >> > >> posted a link to my latest clip and heard nothing. yes i'm hurt ;-) > >> > >> seriously though over a hundred have gone to the page and/or viewed > >> the clip so to quote Yoda in Attack of the Clones. > >> > >> "A thought?" > >> > >> http://theater.suntropolis.com/lestweforget.html > >> ********************************************************** > >> RESPONSE > >> Lancer, > >> You asked for a response to your clip and so I thought I would take > > a look. > >> My first feeling is that I have no idea what it is all about. The > > storyline > >> is not clear to me at all. > >> A group of friends is walking along. A friend gets up and walks to > > meet them > >> and gets pushed away - WHY? No clues in the film. > >> There are some extremely wobbly shots in a schoolroom and then the > > final > >> shot - a pan - is very unsteady too. I struggled to think if this > > was > >> telling me some message but in the end I couldn't understand why it > > hadn't > >> been done on the legs. > >> I realise that your main actors failed to show but if they were at > > all > >> proficient at acting and speaking their lines it would have been > > worth > >> waiting for them to turn up or rescheduling the shoot. > >> > >> Was this just a filming exercise or was there a particular purpose > > to it? > >> Please let us know. > >> > >> Julian > >> Bristol, England > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS > >> > >> > >> Visit your group "Adobe-Premiere" on the web. > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > > Service. > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --------------------------------- > >> To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all > > new Yahoo! Security Centre. > >> > >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "Adobe-Premiere" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get Bzzzy! (real tools to help you find a job). Welcome to the Sweet Life. http://us.click.yahoo.com/A77XvD/vlQLAA/TtwFAA/ADr1lB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Adobe-Premiere/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
