This is quite interesting and while I agree, everything is in a seemingly 
predestined motion as choices appear to play out, choice does not negate 
happenstance and nobody is entirely sure what is going to happen next

When choices come from nothing, is the revelation of no place, or space in and 
of itself causality or is NOTHING already an effect of meditation / advaita?

I guess in your model it is.

Man created God (space, infinite blissful being or whatever we are calling it 
today) in the negation of his own ego

And so it goes on

All this then starts to sound like a song a friend of mine might write

Perhaps I should send him the entire thread and see what happens

Cheers

Mark

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On 3 Aug 2010, at 04:29, Kuber Technologies <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Bob1357 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I need somebody to explain this to me like I am an idiot that I am.
> Marcus I completely understand what you saying your last post.
> I can not get past the concept that my "life's course" if you will, is
> predetermined.
> 
> 
> Neither predetermined.
> Nor volitional.
> 
> 
>  
> If that is the case, every choice I think I am making would have to be
> predetermined.
> Meaning, I'm not making a choice, I'm following suit.
> 
> 
> Is there a separated entity located at a isolatable loci which follows suit 
> to something else?
> 
> Or is the suit, all that there is..........in and as the moment.
> 
> The playing out of a choice, any choice whether to scratch the nose or to 
> expand the business internationally....
> 
> ....is an event ......
> 
> .......without the connotation that it is a happening which can be extracted, 
> viewed, reviewed and concluded upon(aka whether it was a result of a 
> volitional intent/will or it was all part of a predetermined grand plan).
> 
> 
> When the very sense of an event(which includes the sense of a person viewing 
> the event) does not have a independent loci.......
> 
> ......what predeterminism, what volitionality to qualify this not locatable 
> loci.
> 
> 
> 
> Or to put it another way..........for your post to happen and invoke this 
> response......
> 
> ..as a seemingly isolatable event......... 
> 
> ....ten thousand things had to happen holographically....
> 
> ......precisely in the manner that they did, for this event-under-review to 
> happen in the manner that it did.
> 
> There is no linear cause-effect continuum.....
> 
> .....all causes are the effects of all effects which act as causes themselves.
> 
>    
> 
> 
>  
> Meaning everything that is happening, has happened or will happen is
> exactly the way it is, was and will suppose to be.
> 
> 
> Yep.
> 
> Nothing different could have happened, other than the way it did.
> 
> Including our resident joker-RS.
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Takes a lot of responsibility off of one's shoulders.
> Almost too much.
> 
> 
> :-)
> 
> As part of that holographic happening, bills will keep appearing 
> ..........and they will have 
> to be paid up.
> 
> Irrespective of whether the shoulders are lightened and arms are flying, or 
> weighed down by the cross of thought.
> 
> 
>  
> Just having a hard time buying into that .......... so I don't.
> At least not at this point in my life.
> 
> 
> 
> That's fine.
> 
> That not-buying is also a nuance of the hologram.
> 
> 
> A fairly simple mental exercise reveals what is not getting bought.
> 
> Take a decision, any decision, preferably which has had a deep impact on 
> one's life.
> 
> And go back.
> 
> I.e. what happened before that decision was decided upon.
> 
> And what happened previous to that.
> 
> And previous to that.
> 
> In a very short time...........a spider's web will be on display........a web 
> which depending on memory ......could stretch to several years (and if you 
> are keen enough to several life times)..........
> 
> ...and the seeing that each thread of the web.....
> 
> ......had to happen exactly in the manner it did......
> 
> .......for that decision-under-review to occur in the manner it did.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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