We still have Kings, but they are known by different names.

I didn't get what is the doctrine of no-personal-choice. If that is no-
doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge this was to arrest
the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am not an expert on
that.

On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote:
> People go to the Courts and Judges of their own countries with the
> expectation of seeing justice done. What they actually find is a legal
> system that favours the ones who can afford the best QC and knows how
> to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments, negotiations, delays etc
> etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not even seen to be
> done.
>
> Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for justice i.e. in
> the hope to get justice in an afterlife.
>
> Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was created shortly
> after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. The Kings were
> worried that, if people would think that the people were allowed to do
> whatever they wanted, they feared that  the poor would revolt against
> them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come out with the
> idea that if the untouchables were so poor was because of something
> they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As the masses trusted
> and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to continue to live in
> their low conditions and to live in poverty because the Brahmins said
> so.
>
> Love
>
> A
>
> On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Kali,
>
> > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned, then, I
> > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it would be
> > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to allow
> > > society to function as a whole.
>
> > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own drawback, so does religion.
> > The difference being, the things are tangible, in most cases, in
> > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in the case of
> > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All this IMO.
>
> > In most places in  the world, Judiciary has it's benifits. And places
> > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos.
>
> > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi Anandanand
>
> > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned, then, I
> > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it would be
> > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to allow
> > > society to function as a whole.
>
> > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see them more as
> > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place to run society.And,
> > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of any law or regulation
> > > and this can be taken personally or not as a belief or a personal
> > > stand.
>
> > > Regards
>
> > > Kali
>
> > > On Aug 4, 6:46 am, Anandanand <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi Kali,
>
> > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)"
>
> > > > Do you say the same for the trafic rules or the penal code ? I think
> > > > not, just because that will penalise you materially.
>
> > > > On Aug 4, 2:04 am, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)" as in every
> > > > > possible thing. However,I suppose that when I say "I do not believe in
> > > > > anything" I do not really mean as in "in anything" or "completely". I
> > > > > still have my attachments but I do not have, anylonger, "strong"
> > > > > beliefs of any sort.
>
> > > > > I tend to question more often than I should.
>
> > > > > You know the saying "when you see a Buddha in the road, kill him
> > > > > (metaphorically)".
>
> > > > > Yours
>
> > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > On Aug 3, 10:56 pm, Rodger <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Kali, when you say you do not believe in anything, are you meaning 
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > do not believe in any particular religion,or do you really mean
> > > > > > anything...at all?
>
> > > > > > On Aug 3, 4:26 am, Mahakali <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I feel like doing a RS:
>
> > > > > > > there is no Religion
>
> > > > > > > there is no belief..
>
> > > > > > > etc etc..
>
> > > > > > > :-)
>
> > > > > > > Cheers
>
> > > > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > > > PS: raised and brought up as Roman Catholic. My beliefs were many,
> > > > > > > but, nowadays, I cannot say I believe in anything at all 
> > > > > > > (seriously!).
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 3, 11:04 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Here we all are, from different countries, discussing 
> > > > > > > > spirituality.
>
> > > > > > > > And I am wondering...
>
> > > > > > > > What Religion were you brought up with?
>
> > > > > > > > What do you believe now?
>
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