Roomsearching,  what do you get out of this.  They are laughing at you and 
using you as the fool.
You present yourself as the hopeless case and they enjoy that, it makes them 
feel clever.

There is a better way .......  Please trust someone. Please let someone help 
you.

You don't have to be angry.


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-----Original Message-----
From: roomsearching [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 05 August 2010 17:18
To: Hughes, Marcus
Cc: Advaita-Zen
Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question


On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Marcus 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
.

Roomsearching   why ???

"It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well."

Your words can be so elegant and inspiring.   Why do you repeatedly
destroy your magic.  What forces inside you create beauty, then spoil
it.

The insults roomsearching, why ???

Marcus, if you notice, I have spelt ignoramus as ignoranus.
Don't you think that is beautiful ?


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On Aug 5, 12:56 pm, roomsearching 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > Hi Kali,
>
> > Might have been the way you have said. As I said before I like to show
> > off my igneranse. Did I do a Rodger ? :)
>
> It is spelt as ignorance. I know spelling is not important but don't be so
> ignorant about English language.
> It may show that you are an ignoranus in spiritual matters as well.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 4, 5:39 pm, Mahakali 
> > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > Hi Anandanand
>
> > > it is the other way round. The philosophy of Advaita with its doctrine
> > > of non-doership came before the doctrine of karma.
>
> > > Respectfully...
>
> > > Kali
>
> > > On Aug 4, 2:19 pm, Anandanand 
> > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > We still have Kings, but they are known by different names.
>
> > > > I didn't get what is the doctrine of no-personal-choice. If that is no-
> > > > doer-nothing getting done, then as per my knowledge this was to arrest
> > > > the karma thing which went on to excess. Though I am not an expert on
> > > > that.
>
> > > > On Aug 4, 2:59 pm, Mahakali 
> > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > People go to the Courts and Judges of their own countries with the
> > > > > expectation of seeing justice done. What they actually find is a
> > legal
> > > > > system that favours the ones who can afford the best QC and knows how
> > > > > to "the system works" (timeframes, arguments, negotiations, delays
> > etc
> > > > > etc). In most cases, justice is not done and is not even seen to be
> > > > > done.
>
> > > > > Hence, the reason many people resort to religion for justice i.e. in
> > > > > the hope to get justice in an afterlife.
>
> > > > > Also, don't forget that the doctrine of Karma was created shortly
> > > > > after the doctrine of no-personal-choice was created. The Kings were
> > > > > worried that, if people would think that the people were allowed to
> > do
> > > > > whatever they wanted, they feared that  the poor would revolt against
> > > > > them. Hence, they paid (bribed) the Brahmins who come out with the
> > > > > idea that if the untouchables were so poor was because of something
> > > > > they did in their previou lives (law of karma). As the masses trusted
> > > > > and believed their Brahmins, they accepted to continue to live in
> > > > > their low conditions and to live in poverty because the Brahmins said
> > > > > so.
>
> > > > > Love
>
> > > > > A
>
> > > > > On Aug 4, 10:30 am, Anandanand 
> > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi Kali,
>
> > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned,
> > then, I
> > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it
> > would be
> > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to allow
> > > > > > > society to function as a whole.
>
> > > > > > So is Religion. The Judiciary has it's own drawback, so does
> > religion.
> > > > > > The difference being, the things are tangible, in most cases, in
> > > > > > Judiciary, where as they are mostly intangible in the case of
> > > > > > religion, making it in the form of beliefs. All this IMO.
>
> > > > > > In most places in  the world, Judiciary has it's benifits. And
> > places
> > > > > > where it doesn't, are mostly in chaos.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 4, 12:14 pm, Mahakali 
> > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Hi Anandanand
>
> > > > > > > as far as the local laws,rules and regulations are concerned,
> > then, I
> > > > > > > have to abide and respect them. As a citizen of a country, it
> > would be
> > > > > > > foolish and disrespecful to do otherwise. They are meant to allow
> > > > > > > society to function as a whole.
>
> > > > > > > However, I do not see them as "beliefs" , I see them more as
> > > > > > > instruments as part of the machinery put in place to run
> > society.And,
> > > > > > > of course, there is the right and the wrong of any law or
> > regulation
> > > > > > > and this can be taken personally or not as a belief or a personal
> > > > > > > stand.
>
> > > > > > > Regards
>
> > > > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 4, 6:46 am, Anandanand 
> > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > Hi Kali,
>
> > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)"
>
> > > > > > > > Do you say the same for the trafic rules or the penal code ? I
> > think
> > > > > > > > not, just because that will penalise you materially.
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 4, 2:04 am, Mahakali 
> > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I meant "do not believe in anything (religion included)" as
> > in every
> > > > > > > > > possible thing. However,I suppose that when I say "I do not
> > believe in
> > > > > > > > > anything" I do not really mean as in "in anything" or
> > "completely". I
> > > > > > > > > still have my attachments but I do not have, anylonger,
> > "strong"
> > > > > > > > > beliefs of any sort.
>
> > > > > > > > > I tend to question more often than I should.
>
> > > > > > > > > You know the saying "when you see a Buddha in the road, kill
> > him
> > > > > > > > > (metaphorically)".
>
> > > > > > > > > Yours
>
> > > > > > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 10:56 pm, Rodger 
> > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Kali, when you say you do not believe in anything, are you
> > meaning you
> > > > > > > > > > do not believe in any particular religion,or do you really
> > mean
> > > > > > > > > > anything...at all?
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 4:26 am, Mahakali 
> > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
> > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > I feel like doing a RS:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > there is no Religion
>
> > > > > > > > > > > there is no belief..
>
> > > > > > > > > > > etc etc..
>
> > > > > > > > > > > :-)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Kali
>
> > > > > > > > > > > PS: raised and brought up as Roman Catholic. My beliefs
> > were many,
> > > > > > > > > > > but, nowadays, I cannot say I believe in anything at all
> > (seriously!).
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 3, 11:04 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <
> > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Here we all are, from different countries, discussing
> > spirituality.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > And I am wondering...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What Religion were you brought up with?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > What do you believe now?
>
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