Oh yes you can. I am doing it every day several times.
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From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]>
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Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:38:42 
To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort

You cannot watch the I am sense. You can only be the I am sense but in
the being mind is not. Where there's no mind everything is effortless.
Bring mind into the I am sense and dissolve it there.

On Sep 6, 11:14 am, [email protected] wrote:
> The effort to keep watching the I am sense and ignoring thoughts while 
> watching is required but this effort arises spontaneously. The mind, at some 
> point discovers by itself that it feels better while watching itself aka 
> slowing itself down.
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> To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort
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> As your heart beats effortlessly, so is the spiritual path.
> Spirituality is the whole dissolution of effort. Effort implies
> conflict. (You are here now but mind says this is meaningless; meaning
> is in that, not this, and so one employs the vehicle of effort to
> shift from this to that …and from that one shifts again ….endless
> shifting and never arriving)
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> In the physical world effort is necessary but spiritually, effort is
> not necessary or maybe necessary until you’ve come to realize that it
> is unnecessary. There’s spirituality only when will/desire/effort is
> not.
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> On Sep 6, 7:32 am, [email protected] wrote:
> > is not to get hooked by thoughts. If you achieve that you've done your job.
> > Your present situation as well as your goals are made of thoughts.
> > I, for example, have to detach myself from this thoughts I've just written.
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