The "I" that does the I am sense watching is saying "I am not there yet." That which is timeless cannot be approached by time. Loose the concepts of here and there and it is finished.
On Sep 6, 12:31 pm, [email protected] wrote: > I am not there yet. > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:15:41 > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > The effort to keep watching the I am sense and ignoring thoughts while > watching is necessary until you've come to realize that it is > unnecessary. > > On Sep 6, 11:14 am, [email protected] wrote: > > The effort to keep watching the I am sense and ignoring thoughts while > > watching is required but this effort arises spontaneously. The mind, at > > some point discovers by itself that it feels better while watching itself > > aka slowing itself down. > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:28:08 > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > > As your heart beats effortlessly, so is the spiritual path. > > Spirituality is the whole dissolution of effort. Effort implies > > conflict. (You are here now but mind says this is meaningless; meaning > > is in that, not this, and so one employs the vehicle of effort to > > shift from this to that …and from that one shifts again ….endless > > shifting and never arriving) > > > In the physical world effort is necessary but spiritually, effort is > > not necessary or maybe necessary until you’ve come to realize that it > > is unnecessary. There’s spirituality only when will/desire/effort is > > not. > > > On Sep 6, 7:32 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > is not to get hooked by thoughts. If you achieve that you've done your > > > job. > > > Your present situation as well as your goals are made of thoughts. > > > I, for example, have to detach myself from this thoughts I've just > > > written. > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
