I support the above message 100%. On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 7:18 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> Nisargadatta said to watch the I am sense, his guru said him the same. So, > I obey without questioning and do the same. > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > -----Original Message----- > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:15:11 > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > The "I" that does the I am sense watching is saying "I am not there > yet." That which is timeless cannot be approached by time. Loose the > concepts of here and there and it is finished. > > > > On Sep 6, 12:31 pm, [email protected] wrote: > > I am not there yet. > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 09:15:41 > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > > > The effort to keep watching the I am sense and ignoring thoughts while > > watching is necessary until you've come to realize that it is > > unnecessary. > > > > On Sep 6, 11:14 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > The effort to keep watching the I am sense and ignoring thoughts while > watching is required but this effort arises spontaneously. The mind, at some > point discovers by itself that it feels better while watching itself aka > slowing itself down. > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:28:08 > > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > > > > As your heart beats effortlessly, so is the spiritual path. > > > Spirituality is the whole dissolution of effort. Effort implies > > > conflict. (You are here now but mind says this is meaningless; meaning > > > is in that, not this, and so one employs the vehicle of effort to > > > shift from this to that …and from that one shifts again ….endless > > > shifting and never arriving) > > > > > In the physical world effort is necessary but spiritually, effort is > > > not necessary or maybe necessary until you’ve come to realize that it > > > is unnecessary. There’s spirituality only when will/desire/effort is > > > not. > > > > > On Sep 6, 7:32 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > > is not to get hooked by thoughts. If you achieve that you've done > your job. > > > > Your present situation as well as your goals are made of thoughts. > > > > I, for example, have to detach myself from this thoughts I've just > written. > > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - >
