you said "I am doing it every day..." Who is this "I" that is doing the I am sense watching everyday? is that "I" separate from the I am sense watching? If it is then one is real and the other is illusory. Find out which is which first and then proceed from there.
On Sep 6, 11:39 am, [email protected] wrote: > Oh yes you can. I am doing it every day several times. > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 08:38:42 > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > You cannot watch the I am sense. You can only be the I am sense but in > the being mind is not. Where there's no mind everything is effortless. > Bring mind into the I am sense and dissolve it there. > > On Sep 6, 11:14 am, [email protected] wrote: > > The effort to keep watching the I am sense and ignoring thoughts while > > watching is required but this effort arises spontaneously. The mind, at > > some point discovers by itself that it feels better while watching itself > > aka slowing itself down. > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fearlessinquirer <[email protected]> > > > Sender: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 06:28:08 > > To: Advaita-Zen<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: The biggest 'spiritual' effort > > > As your heart beats effortlessly, so is the spiritual path. > > Spirituality is the whole dissolution of effort. Effort implies > > conflict. (You are here now but mind says this is meaningless; meaning > > is in that, not this, and so one employs the vehicle of effort to > > shift from this to that …and from that one shifts again ….endless > > shifting and never arriving) > > > In the physical world effort is necessary but spiritually, effort is > > not necessary or maybe necessary until you’ve come to realize that it > > is unnecessary. There’s spirituality only when will/desire/effort is > > not. > > > On Sep 6, 7:32 am, [email protected] wrote: > > > is not to get hooked by thoughts. If you achieve that you've done your > > > job. > > > Your present situation as well as your goals are made of thoughts. > > > I, for example, have to detach myself from this thoughts I've just > > > written. > > > Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
