On Mar 14, 9:39 pm, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > Well it's bizarre that this email arrives as I am drinking tea - awakening > from a dream? > > The agenda here is to finish book and get it published and "I" have an > opinion it should be finished by now LOL
It is finished. The goose was anyways out of the bottle. Maybe add some limericks to give the finishing touch. There was a man from Madras Whose balls were made of brass. Everytime he girded his loins to speak on Advaitic points Lightening flew out of his enlightened arse. > > Sent from an iPhone > > On 14 Mar 2011, at 16:17, Sandeep-Kuber Technologies > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On 3/14/2011 8:44 PM, Mark Ty-Wharton wrote: > > >> I am writing a book about consciousness. > > >> While I thought I knew everything I needed to know about this subject to > >> complete the book I find I am caught in the throws of a show stopper so > >> huge I cannot see a resolution to it. > > >> My manuscript contained some 30,000 words of complex arguments for and > >> against various concepts which have been put forward over the years. > > >> I have no doubt to someone it will be a good read. > > >> What I notice is there is a block. > > >> And again in my experience a block usually means a "not being truthful > >> about something". > > >> I have writers block and I am not being truthful about it. > > >> Obviously I am writing this, though in writing this my hope is I am > >> writing a key to unlock a door. > > >> The door I need to unlock is a door which is hidden behind an intense set > >> of feelings I am not always honest about. > > >> I am deeply frustrated and perplexed by the nature of my own consciousness. > > >> While I believe I have had direct experiences of what constitutes my true > >> nature, the seeking of it seems to create a wall which in itself becomes > >> impossible to break down. > > > Yes. > > > Akin, you cannot lift yourself by your shoelaces, no matter the quality and > > quantum of the efforts. > > > And direct experiences is just that .......akin breathlessness resulting > > from all the efforts > > to raise yourself by your shoelaces. > > >> I have a clear logical understanding of the nature of self, yet self > >> always needs to be there. > > > Indeed. > > > The sense of the logical understanding is very sense of the self > > > And thus hardly of any import. > > >> It would seem that self is the context in which I hold awareness and > >> experience itself. > > >> And even this over complicates it. > > > The sense of the self is the sense of holding. > > > What is the holding of ........is of little significance. > > >> I am annoyed that I can't get AT it. I am annoyed that I can contemplate > >> in the bath for hours and conceptualise over IT. > > >> It is and always was the case and the seeking of it makes me blind and > >> angry to it. > > > Good. > > > What's the big deal with the anger, anyway? > > > Rantings of a dreamt-up character of the last night sleep dream drama...... > > > ....today morning sipping from a hot cup of tea.....of what significance is > > that ranting? > > >> Here is what I notice. > > >> I pretend I am not angry about the amount of time I have taken to get to > >> grips with IT. > > >> The pretence gives me no access to the anger. > > > The pretense is the anger. > > > And vice versa. > > > There is no self oscillating between the two. > > >> Without access to the anger I have no experience of the one experiencing > >> the anger. > > > You have no experience. > > > You have had no experience. > > > You will not have any experience. > > >> It's just like a frustrating never ending quest for something that I > >> almost never get. > > > Yes. > > > Round and round the mulberry bush. > > > Till one falls down. > > > Till that time, a wound up clock keeps ticking. > > >> And when I find 'the zone' I dare not go to sleep for fear that it will be > >> gone when I wake up (and often it appears to have). > > > Zones which goes......has to have the property of coming. > > > And thus going. > > > Thus,stuff within time. > > > Just like passing fluffy clouds. > > > The blue sky or yonder is neither asleep or awakened to passing fluffs. > > >> I cannot write a book from my experience unless my experience constitutes > >> and expert opinion. > > > Thought preening that it has something to say about what it has itself > > created (as itself) > > >> I would not expect to read a book about riding bicycles by someone who has > >> no idea how to stay on one and occasionally does by sheer luck. > > >> Yes, practice may be the key. > > >> But the key rarely fits the door directly. > > >> Where I got to today. > > >> When I stand in front of a mirror, there are two of me in my visual field. > > >> I only identify with the one that appears on the three dimensional side of > >> the mirror. > > >> The flat one in the glass is not "me" but it is "my" reflection. > > >> The three dimensional one typing this message is not "me" but it is "my" > >> body typing. > > >> Clear as anything logically. > > >> When I move my hand I feel movement in my hand. > > >> There is no feeling at the "me" end of the nervous system. > > >> When I look at the chest of drawers in the bedroom there is no feeling > >> there either. > > >> The chest of drawers and the "me" doing feeling of hands feels the same. > > >> The illusion might be I am the chest of drawers. > > >> Is advaita and zen a concept? > > > Yep. > > > No different to the sense of the questioner posing the sense of that very > > question. > > >> An illusion. > > >> It appears I am one because I am not. > > > Drop these bromides. > > > It just strengthens the feeling that one knows something and thus has > > something to say. > > > Neither an is, nor a is-not. > > > Neither the one nor the not-one. > > >> Answers on a postcard please. > > >> Frustration spoken about from my place of truth. > > >> What's missing? > > > Nothing whatsoever. > > > Just the usual un-crossable shore that thought arrives at .......time after > > time, time immemorial. > > > And retreats to once again gather momentum like a tsunami to hit the same > > shore. > > > Again and again. > > > Till a dissipation. > > > Which it cannot bring about by itself, as the dissipation is not within > > time. > > >> Thanks > > >> Mark- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
