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A very interesting metaphor. “The final stage of the book” What does that mean to each one of us ???? That final real-truth-knowing, is that realisation that knowing itself is the route cause of all illusion. The more any human tries to conceptualise and label this final stage the further away it will appear. This final truth “Advaita” must remain the exclusive mystery of our being. Too many books in the past have tried to portray this ultimate truth to the uninitiated. The masses at large, generally are not psychologically or emotionally ready. But this should never prevent one trying. Remember the metaphor. They crucified Jesus for trying to enlighten the masses then they capitalised his teaching and built a global corporation called religion. The final real-truth-realisation is ………………………………. Relative I don’t know. But If I was to try, it would be to point to something like the difference between the time theories of Newton and Einstein. In brief. Newton said time was absolute. A fixed measure that is constant. Whereas Einstein said time is relative to our human experience of it. Example :- waiting for a delayed train, minutes seem to take hours. Yet in a good party atmosphere hours can seem like minutes. Einstein’s fundamental point being : as humans, time is relative to the individuals experience of it. This I believe is a universal truth. Conscious awareness of the non- duality of our universe is defined solely by the individual’s experience of it. There are many paths to this condition and the delusion of duality is clearly necessary to begin the journey. Non- duality reveals itself when the illusion of self steps out of the way. In doing so the illusion of self becomes transparent and yet respected as the necessary vessel to enable the experience of a journey. Like holding a mirror for non-duality. The carbon and calcium which makeup my body are make by dying stars. My arms and legs are too fragile to compete with mother nature’s programme of plenary change. Yet the self that feels compelled to type these words is none of these things. That yearning, which drives my fingers and propels my being into the next event of my experience of this self-illusion. Is the final real truth-realisation. The invisible energy which drives this delusion of self and ensures these happenings happen. I don’t know anything really …………… I just pretend to be me. . On Mar 15, 9:43 am, Mark Ty-Wharton <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just curious what you are looking for in posting this message. Do you > > want direct feedback or are you just exploring your own thoughts about > > the topic? The first question that comes to mind here is what is the > > motivation for writing a book? > > I am an author :) > > If I worked in a supermarket what would the motivation be for going to work? > > > Basic feedback would be to look at the questions asked and how they > > unfold. How many times do you say "I" and 'my' in describing what the > > dilemma is. Obviously we have to use the word, but it is the frame of > > reference as "I" that is askew if one is serious about attempting to > > speak about the subtleties of Consciousness. The whole thing is about > > 'me' and not Consciousness. Only with the absence of a sense of an > > individual "I" and the sense of 'my,' is from where Consciousness can > > be spoken about authoritatively. > > That's half arsed and I disagree - the relationship between I and > consciousness is for more interesting than I itself or consciousness itself, > it is where the value lies in the exploration of these matters, the > relationship > > > "Frustration spoken about from my place of truth." I find this > > statement quite revealing, in that with this being the state of > > consciousness, what of value can be said about the nature of > > Consciousness? Would you buy a book on Consciousness from that > > guy? :O) (What is 'my' place of Truth versus yours anyway?) > > I don't know > > I guess that is why I am not writing it or selling it to you because like > you I cannot see the value in it :) > > So what WOULD be the angle? > > I mean I have to write about something LOL > > Ah yeah > > GEESE! > > > What can be said about the subtlety of Consciousness when there is no > > self-surrender? Without self-surrender, you are only writing about > > "me." > > > Sorry if my comments are too direct. > > No, very useful > > Thanks > > Mark
