now I recall exactly what the old lady said to me at speakers corner

"this isn't your country is it?"

I said "no"

not because I wasn't born here, or didn't grow up here

because I don't see the land I live on as belonging to me

so "why do you live in England?" was profound

notice one can hear non-duality in her question :)

we can learn from the trees man!

On 23 March 2011 23:18, YouWho? <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> You see that's the beauty of the simplicity of the idea of making
> everything free. Nobody would be demanding anything. Nobody would be
> claiming that 'they' have more than 'me,' as anyone could have
> whatever they needed or wanted, within reason of course. You can't
> give everyone everything, there just simply isn't enough of everything
> to give everyone. :O)
>
> We both know that this is not going to happen, at least not in our
> lifetime, but take a step back from what you are arguing for a few
> moments and try to see the deeper point that is being indicated.
>
> "Us" versus "them," and greed(desire) for objects in the world are at
> the root of the problem.
>
> Everyone need not have universal consciousness to live and work
> cooperatively for the good of the whole and not just the few. Just
> look at the letter I posted from Japan. I assure you that all of those
> folks helping each other out are not living from a place of universal
> consciousness, but they dropped the "us vs. them" mentality, and they
> are helping each other survive, together.
>
> What do you really care if someone works or not? This is ego based
> thinking that is a result of thinking solely of oneself, and not THE
> Self that is the oneness in all. The only reason one cares about this
> is because of "me vs. them" thinking which is duality and ignorance on
> its most gross level.
>
> There will always be people who don't want to work, or who can't work.
> So what? Let them eat cake, or make music, or watch the kids. Who
> cares? Does that mean that their needs should not be taken care of?
> And there will always be people who want to work, even if there is no
> reward or payment for their labor. And, unfortunately because of love
> for objects in the world, and thinking them to be 'mine,' or the
> notion "I want that," there will be injustice and cruelty.
>
> Not wanting to give 'mine' to another is ego. Who is 'mine' for
> anyway? It is for the body, and this type of selfish thinking is
> solidly based in the belief that oneself is the body.
>
> What are things anyway? Nothing but dust in the wind. Like water or
> sand slipping through your fingers, trying to lay claim to any thing
> is and excercise in futility and the very definition of bondage.
>
> I say nothing is mine. Mine is delusion. Whatever can be taken away
> from me was never mine to begin with.
>
> This understanding is the difference between sages and the ignorant.
> The sages want nothing, give everything, and for them, nothing is
> lacking.
>
>
>
>

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