We are talking about images - remember not works of art
As for knowledge it tends to be demonstrated heuristically - give me a
specific task rather than abstractions and I will se if I can jump through
the hoop that you are unwilling to even consider
Saul Ostrow
Visual Arts and Technologies
The Cleveland Institute of Art




> From: Chris Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 15:39:03 GMT
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: The Fate of The Image
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>> knowing how to do what you want to do - Is not the same thing as doing what
> you want to do, which often requires no knowledge.
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> Perhaps, Saul, you could demonstrate your own analytic skills by telling us
> how you might prove an absence of knowledge ?
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> The inability to sufficiently explain what is known?
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> That would certainly eliminate many instances of alleged knowledge --
> including the originator of the quote under discussion, Jackson Pollock.
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> Does Ranciere really "dismiss skills that exist outside the specifics of a
> given task or goal" ?  We've had such difficulty defining the tasks or goals
> of any alleged 'artworks' -- I'm afraid we would have to conclude that skill
> was irrelevant to their production.
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> I'm afraid that 'knowledge' (as well as 'skill', 'art', and 'image') is one of
> those difficult words that need to be rushed to the emergency room of the
> Cheerskep clinic.
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> - consequently I would appreciate it if you kept to your own
> premise - so perhaps you should take a moment and reflect on what this quote
> implies -  it calls for someone to acquire the ability technical and
> conceptual through experience and training to accomplish their goal. What he
> does dismiss is that skills exist outside the specifics of a given task or
> goal.
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> Your own argument demonstrates just this - your analytic skills are limited
> to your goal of making a certain argument over and over again without much
> self-reflection
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