I always felt that meaning was the relationship between the object and the total experiences in each individual mind, unless the mind can create objects
not related to one's experience.
mando
On Aug 24, 2008, at 1:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

"Meaning" is always in a mind, never in an object.

Whenever we look upon (or hear, or taste, or smell, or even palp) an object, the sense data each mind receives is more or less different from the next
mind's receipt, and each mind then "processes" it differently.

The processing is largely a matter of associating the immediate sensations with other notion already stored in memory. That inventory of memories, plus the intricacies of our associating apparatus, result in new notion that can be of wide variation from mind to mind -- variation and degree of "recognition".

If confronted by an elaborate mathematical formula, many of us can go no further than perhaps "recognizing" it as a mathematical formula, while a mathematician's mind goes bounding on to all sorts of new notion. When confronted with a scription in a foreign alphabet, many of us may think, "Well, it's eastern
Asian," -- and be wrong because it turns out to be ancient African or
something.

What most of us have in mind when we talk of an object's "meaning" is solely in our heads, a somewhat "recognizable" notion. Thus when confronted with a scription we are told is Attic Greek, we may say with a chortle, "It's all Greek to me!" Or, more seriously, "Well it's meaningless to me." When we say that, what we have in mind is the fact that our associating mind has not come up with notion that we can "get a grip on", grasp, recognize to some degree.

And that's where our lingo begins to mislead us. We commence saying it's the scription -- or poem, or painting, or strange sound -- that is with or without
meaning.

If a scholarly woodsman sees elaborate markings on a tree, he may wonder what "their meaning" is. If the markings turn out to be the clawings of a bear, he may say, "Ah! So they're meaningless." But a second woodsman may demur: "Oh, no. The markings mean a lot. The only a bear does that is when..." And their young companion from the city may say, "I'll tell you what they mean. They mean
there are bears around here. Let's go home."


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