In a message dated 11/20/08 8:21:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>
> Regarding the body/mind, if the mind is embodied, then what are the limits
> of the body?  Skin surface in?  Do we include bodily fluids and wastes as
part
> of the body?  Do we include speech?  Do we include things thrown from the
> body? Where does the body begin and end?  These may seem like ridiculous
> questions but if there is a soul that is co-existent with the body or at one
with
> it, then we need to know the extension of the body, or the soul.
>
(1) Dualists tend to take a position about consciousness that they are -- or
should be -- a bit uncomfortable with: It exists in time, but has no
extension. I.e. it doesn't exist in "space". This is rather like the position
of those
who believe in mind-independent "abstractions" like "justice", "evil",
"categories", "qualities", "essences", etc. -- those alleged entities are also
accepted as having no extension.

(2) You all many times have heard my mantra that all notion is indeterminate,
indefinite, multiplex, and transitory. Add this: So are all "material"
things. We tend to think that when we "indicate" an object -- like someone's
body,
or even a rock --   we're citing a stable, discrete, unitary object, the
contents of which are determinate and distinctly bounded. Linguistically, we
feel
there is a "correspondence" of some kind between the word/name and such an
object. William's good questions show that all these assumptions, though
usually
serviceable, are fundamentally unsound.



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