All art is done by what we assume to know at the present, I like to think we are individual things among other individual things, so if anybody can clarify things, i want to know. What i think I know, is that every thing in the whole
universe is connected as one. We may ones of many little ones that make
bigger ones. Maybe there is a big thing that is the totality of all humans,and
each of us is just things the make the big thing itch at times.
mando


On Nov 21, 2008, at 11:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 11/20/08 8:21:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



Regarding the body/mind, if the mind is embodied, then what are the limits of the body? Skin surface in? Do we include bodily fluids and wastes as
part
of the body? Do we include speech? Do we include things thrown from the body? Where does the body begin and end? These may seem like ridiculous questions but if there is a soul that is co-existent with the body or at one
with
it, then we need to know the extension of the body, or the soul.

(1) Dualists tend to take a position about consciousness that they are -- or
should be -- a bit uncomfortable with: It exists in time, but has no
extension. I.e. it doesn't exist in "space". This is rather like the position
of those
who believe in mind-independent "abstractions" like "justice", "evil",
"categories", "qualities", "essences", etc. -- those alleged entities are also
accepted as having no extension.

(2) You all many times have heard my mantra that all notion is indeterminate,
indefinite, multiplex, and transitory. Add this: So are all "material"
things. We tend to think that when we "indicate" an object -- like someone's
body,
or even a rock -- we're citing a stable, discrete, unitary object, the contents of which are determinate and distinctly bounded. Linguistically, we
feel
there is a "correspondence" of some kind between the word/name and such an object. William's good questions show that all these assumptions, though
usually
serviceable, are fundamentally unsound.



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