Do you mean associations are embedded in the image or evoked in the viewer 
regardless of the cues "put" into the image by its author.?  And if there are 
few associations evoked, is it the fault/achievement of the image, its author, 
or its viewer?   

In my view, all images are mere images, intrinsically, but we can never 
experience them so pure.  We always perceive them as containers filled with our 
private and public (shared) associations.  Otherwise, we may not even notice 
them at all for they would have no coherence as images.  We project coherence 
from our ready supply of associative patterns and expectations.
WC




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From: Saul Ostrow <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 12:54:56 AM
Subject: RE: shoes

I'm not speaking of just the literary narrative that one can attribute to a
image - I'm talking about the relationship between form, subject, style,
materiality, composition, point of view, scale, aesthetics, ethics, rhetoric,
conception, etc.

to say that something is a mere image does not mean you can not have
associations - means that they are not complex and do not represent a knowing
- a source of self reflective experience

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From: [email protected] [[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2009 9:36 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: shoes

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Miller <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: shoes

Saul, have any of these three writers suggested that is possible to
have a
"mere image" -- i.e. one that has nothing that can be unfolded or
unpacked?

And, have any of them proposed how one might objectively determine that
one
work has more to be unpacked than another?

For example, Heidegger unpacked a great deal from that Van Gogh
painting --
it's just that others have wondered whether it was ever there to begin
with.

I remember how an anthropologist once showed me how much could be
unpacked
from a book of matches. (it was even more than Heidegger found in those
shoes!)


>They all address why it is a work of art in that they all propose that
the
van gogh is not ta picture of shoes butmore and because of this  as a
painting
it is more than a mere image - it is this  more-ness that allows for a
unfolding or an unpacking of the work  that makes it art - - in that
the work
of art (its labor) resides in the fact that it can not be known in its
totality and  it can not be reduced to a singularity - but opens us to
possibilities - potentialities that can not and are not bound by
language -


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