I hate carrying on with my disagreements with Miller.  But my great failing is 
to be drawn to the fire as a moth to the flame.

Aesthetics is a field of inquiry in philosophy and the philosophy of art.  It 
has a tradition and a body of literature.  It is discussed for the sake of 
finding common ground on particular questions.  If Miller wants to redefine the 
field so narrowly that there is absolutely nothing to discuss except to pass 
around unexamined personal opinions then he is opting for a mode of discourse 
that could be exercised with grunts and not words.  I find it humorous that he 
makes a universal claim for something that he insists is totally individual. 
How can "all people" be obliged to do something that he insists is the 
prerogative of each person's perception?  

Agreement on intellectual views is not conformity in the usual sense because 
conformity implies agreement in the absence of inquiry, as, for example, when 
people conform to laws they neither question nor think about but simply enfold 
into their behavior.  I think the proper word would be consensus, which implies 
that  agreement is obtained among a group while individual differences are 
respected.

The demands of intellectual rigor are essentially limited to logic.  Logic is 
essential to reaching an objective view of anything, whether or not the content 
of the argument is true or false.  Then facts based on observation and 
measurement are examined for their truth or falsity and in this area there is 
room for contentious dissent.  Some facts may be wrongly observed or measured, 
some may irrelevant, some may be unknown or change in the course of being 
observed or measured.  Contrary to Miller's comment, scientific facts are not 
established by authority but by observation and experiment.  The scientific 
method provides a check on authority.  Nothing is settled in science simply 
because of authority.  We've all heard of  scientists' "new discoveries" in 
science that are not accepted because the experiments and observations that led 
to them cannot de duplicated by others,  Again, that's a check on authority, no 
matter who it is.  Again, facts do not
 rest on authority in our scientific era. In the past, facts did rest solely on 
authority and power.

Granted that aesthetics is not science, not yet, and granted that opinion and 
personal experience plays a huge role in aesthetic judgment, so far as we know 
from comparison to other types of experience.  But in aesthetic discourse, 
elementary logic is still required to enable people to follow arguments and 
attention to what others have said on the aesthetic topic at hand is prudent.

So far, Miller has never been able to tell us what his aesthetic subjectivity 
is.  He is only interested in negating what others have offered, finally 
finding unassailable refuge in his requirement that all aesthetic judgment is 
individual, and therefore non-communicable at all.  If you say you have a 
treasure hidden in your closet but no one can see it and you refuse to describe 
it or to enable others to value it in any way how do you "prove" that you have 
the treasure at all?  Ironically, unknowingly, Miller is taking a postmodern 
position, that art is anything at all, maybe even nothing.  Lots of 
contemporary "art" aims to question whether or not art can exist, not only in 
historical terms regarding quality and object-hood,  but in experiential terms, 
both individually and socially.  It's sort of like the god question.  If god 
exists, the option that he does not exist is necessary.



________________________________
From: Chris Miller <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:14:43 AM
Subject: Re: Rational Discussion and aesthetic quality

Or -- perhaps we just  have different perceptions?

In the realm of aesthetics, all people  should rely on themselves for all
proofs.

Otherwise, like Michael,  they have nothing to contribute but conformity and
occasional angry, desparate demands that others conform as well.

William finds it shocking that I find Ansel Adams' photographs to be muddy --
while I find many of his statements (especially about  post-modernism)  to be
shocking as well.

Whose dinner party is it ?  And who are the impudent children?

BTW - authority is very important to  scientific projects because it
establishes facts. Those facts may, in the future, be disproven, but while
they stand, ongoing science must either account for them or disprove them.



>Miller relies on himself for all proofs.  He is the supreme authority.  He
can
ramble on with his severely cramped opinions (Ansel Adams' work is "muddy",
etc) and make wild assertions that to him bolster his anti-modernist
iconoclasm, which is his prime reason for getting up in the morning.  Above
all, Miller wants attention and like the impudent kid at the dinner party, he
will say whatever snide thing he can to upset the adults at the table.
Trouble
is, both the child and the adult are Miller himself.

You can share his opinion or not and if you share them Miller will
immediately
take them to some ludicrous extreme of childish stubbornness in order to
assure
his opinion will not be shared. Therein lies the paradox of Miller.  He
writes
to enlist allies but whenever they appear too close he pulls away again with
some newly hatched iconoclastic absurdity.  His goal is to be completely
alone
with his self-justifying opinions.  An crumpled and angry inner self is
demanding the full-attention of his social self and will ruin any "party" to
get it. (WC)


>Miller wrongly equates scientific inquiry with appeals to authority.
Actually
the two are polar opposites. (WC)

>


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