I don't know enough Kant to reply in depth.  I'm still trying to figure out the 
paradox of "purposeless purpose" as a nice idea but impossible to demonstrate 
since causality, especially which leads us from one association to another, is  
always constructive, whether metaphorical or logically sequential. 

But Kant's stratifying beauty and judgment strike me as too odd to show by 
example.  Free and adherent, formal, abstract vs. representational, are notions 
I have long rejected, both as an artist and as a struggling thinker.  My 
essential  slogan is that "anything can be perceived as something else"

  That means that all formal abstract shapes, designs, etc., do evoke some 
associative, continuous metaphorical "naming".  Thus an artificial distinction 
between adherent and free beauties strikes me as irrelevant. 

I believe we are forced by nature to identify everything as if everything had a 
name, a representation. Conversely, everything has a formal construct (which we 
invent). If we see something that seems only formal, we immediately want to say 
"it looks like...."  Or if we see a human figure, we qualify it formally. 

Free beauty is the same as adherent beauty; one instantly evokes or serves and 
becomes indistinguishable from the other.

I'm sure it's not as simple in Kant  as it is to me.  I will appreciate your 
explanation.

wc


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To: [email protected]
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 9:31:02 PM
Subject: Re: "What is happening during an 'a.e.'?"

I think I am distinguishing between KAnt's free and adherent beauties   and 
you are not. You are assuming that an aesthetic experience is the same for 
both sorts. Can you explain why you think this?
KAte Sullivan

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