Theistic evolutionism - very 19th century pragmatic inductive rationalism- your trapped in words- you call it realist- and by that you are held to 19th century concepts - this is what becomes of the disciple
Sent from my iPhone 646 528 8537 On Mar 16, 2010, at 5:33 AM, "Frances Kelly" <[email protected]> wrote: > Frances to Saul and others... > The antirealist alternative to globally account for what may > be felt or sensed or known by humans as being in the world is > some kind of subjective mentalism, like notionalism or nominalism > or rationalism, which is unacceptable to realists. > The common sense hypothesis of external existence is a good > guess, derived from individual observations of inner feelings > about the seeming haze given of phenomenal stuff, which > subjective observations are then put to objective expressions, so > that other normal experts who are similarly inclined will by a > consensus of their agreed opinion tentatively determine what is > real and true. Since the individual observer is unreliable, it > falls to the community of observers to control conformity by > analyzing their expressed propositions. What collective thinkers > have found to date is that mathematics and logics, and > synechastics or the evolving phenomenal categories, are ideal > objective things that exist independent of human feelings or > knowings, and that furthermore the laws of nature and the laws of > science are also found to be objective phenomenal constructs. > These expert findings of course would be conditionally contingent > and provisionally probable. Under the philosophy of realist > pragmatism this is a situation of objective relativism, where the > human is brought into an indirect relation with the objective > phenomena they subjectively feel might exist, and not into a > relation with their own inner psyche about the haze of seeming > phenomenal stuff that is given uncontrolled to them. The > mathematics and logics and laws of nature or science found to > exist by humans are not arbitrary inventions. The agents of this > design are the dispositional tendencies of stuff to evolve in the > best direction possible, which is generally fated towards a good > end goal. > > Saul wrote... > As revealed or hypothesized by human beings - whomergent > world se knowledge of the world is emergent - consequently > man-made laws are merely propositions and cannot be held to be > true - in other words they are either merely symbolic or mythic > or in some cases delusional. > > Frances wrote... > My understanding of realist pragmatism on this issue of what > continues or exists in the world before signs is that phenomena > does, and as categorically structured with monadic qualities and > dyadic facts and triadic laws.
