That type of meter reading is very slow speed data as I recall, I think less
than dial up. It works good for once a month meter readings and occasionally
sending data bullets to shut down water heaters and such. As Adam mentioned
the idea of BPL was flawed because they assumed in the models that there
were many houses per transformer. In rural areas where they really want to
do this there is more commonly one house per transformer so the business
model falls apart. The other major issue was that the BPL systems used
frequencies on open wires that interfered in a major way with various
licensed services on the shortwave bands and as such they became
unintentional radiators and that had international implications based on
treaties. They tried to notch out the frequencies that they were causing
interference but then that made the bandwidth for the broadband side suffer
in a big way. 

Thank You,
Brian Webster


-----Original Message-----
From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Access Broadband over Powerline

Our local power company has smart meters that they absolutely read over the
powerline.

I feel like even if you had to do a electric tap and a small access point at
the transformer you could stomach it is the smile on it.

> On Jul 19, 2018, at 20:46, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> They use wireless for smart meters.  Around here it's Wimax to feed a
900mhz base station, then 900 to the smart meter.  In a different
municipality nearby they have a mobile system that polls the meters when
they drive by.  So the meter reader still exists, but all he has to do is
drive slowly down the street.
> 
> I didn't look hard at BPL after learning about the transformer issue.
That seems to make it a non-starter as far as I can tell.  I think you can
run some flavor of BPL on the primaries.  Or run fiber down the road.  Or
wireless to the transformer, BPL to the house.
> 
> If there was a viable business in BPL, every power company would already
be doing it.  They've had plenty of time to research the topic.
> 
> -Adam
> 
> 
>> On 7/19/2018 8:38 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>> Seems simple enough.
>> 
>> So what means exist for BPL to the transformer?
>> 
>> How do smart meters work?  They have to jump the transformer some how.
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 20:33, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Signal doesn't pass through transformers, so you need the access point
on the customer side of the transformer.  So you need a means to get
internet to the pole which has the customer's transformer on it.  If you
could do that you wouldn't need the BPL.
>>> 
>>> That's the long and the short of it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/19/2018 8:18 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
>>>> There was much chatter about this technology some years ago, and then
the talk of it fizzled - even though the FCC approved it.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone know of anyone making access wide area BPL equipment
currently?
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone here have any experience with it?
>>>> 
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