Hmmm. Just spoke with our power company. Their meter data flows throw the transformer.
How’s that work? > On Jul 19, 2018, at 21:07, Brian Webster <[email protected]> wrote: > > That type of meter reading is very slow speed data as I recall, I think less > than dial up. It works good for once a month meter readings and occasionally > sending data bullets to shut down water heaters and such. As Adam mentioned > the idea of BPL was flawed because they assumed in the models that there > were many houses per transformer. In rural areas where they really want to > do this there is more commonly one house per transformer so the business > model falls apart. The other major issue was that the BPL systems used > frequencies on open wires that interfered in a major way with various > licensed services on the shortwave bands and as such they became > unintentional radiators and that had international implications based on > treaties. They tried to notch out the frequencies that they were causing > interference but then that made the bandwidth for the broadband side suffer > in a big way. > > Thank You, > Brian Webster > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:54 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Access Broadband over Powerline > > Our local power company has smart meters that they absolutely read over the > powerline. > > I feel like even if you had to do a electric tap and a small access point at > the transformer you could stomach it is the smile on it. > >> On Jul 19, 2018, at 20:46, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> They use wireless for smart meters. Around here it's Wimax to feed a > 900mhz base station, then 900 to the smart meter. In a different > municipality nearby they have a mobile system that polls the meters when > they drive by. So the meter reader still exists, but all he has to do is > drive slowly down the street. >> >> I didn't look hard at BPL after learning about the transformer issue. > That seems to make it a non-starter as far as I can tell. I think you can > run some flavor of BPL on the primaries. Or run fiber down the road. Or > wireless to the transformer, BPL to the house. >> >> If there was a viable business in BPL, every power company would already > be doing it. They've had plenty of time to research the topic. >> >> -Adam >> >> >>> On 7/19/2018 8:38 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>> Seems simple enough. >>> >>> So what means exist for BPL to the transformer? >>> >>> How do smart meters work? They have to jump the transformer some how. >>> >>>> On Jul 19, 2018, at 20:33, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Signal doesn't pass through transformers, so you need the access point > on the customer side of the transformer. So you need a means to get > internet to the pole which has the customer's transformer on it. If you > could do that you wouldn't need the BPL. >>>> >>>> That's the long and the short of it. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 7/19/2018 8:18 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote: >>>>> There was much chatter about this technology some years ago, and then > the talk of it fizzled - even though the FCC approved it. >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know of anyone making access wide area BPL equipment > currently? >>>>> >>>>> Anyone here have any experience with it? >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
