The last I knew, WISPs were still about half of UBNT's revenue. 

The problem doesn't just apply to WISPs. UBNT has now proven that they're 
willing to sue their customers over things unrelated to lack of payment. 




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From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> 
To: "AFMUG" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 12:34:51 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 


I would assume that the percentage of sales of these particular products, are 
mostly going to WISPs. I agree, that it probably won't make a huge dent in 
their overall sales, but it could very easily be larger than the amount of 
sales that they lost because of Elevate (which I suspect is very tiny... most 
people using Elevate were probably moving to ePMP anyway, it just made the 
process a lot easier). The only way that I can see this making sense is if they 
felt they had to do it to cover themselves with the FCC. 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 12:15 PM Lewis Bergman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 


I am by no means a fan of ubiquiti but I doubt the impact will be of any great 
consequence to sales. 
I would like to know what percentage of sales go to wisps but I bet it isn't 
all that enormous. Secondly, if you are a fan of them, this is probably a 
cheering squad opportunity. 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 12:01 PM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>


THAT is the biggest part of the whole situation. Who is going to trust Ubiquiti 
going forward? 




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From: "Ben Royer" < [email protected] > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 11:57:52 AM 



Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 




I could be way wrong, but it seems to me in the court of public opinion this 
will hurt UBNT worse. I mean, any WISP out there, and Disti, using or selling 
Elevate, in my opinion would be pretty upset UBNT is trying to accuse them as 
‘co-conspirators’. This is a very, very slippery slope UBNT has just tried to 
push everyone using Elevate down. 

Thank you, 
Ben Royer, Operations Manager 
Royell Communications, Inc. 





From: Adam Moffett 
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 11:52 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium 

So yeah they are talking about the extra Tx power. They're also claiming 
copyright, DMCA, RICO, CFA, and software licenses violations. 
They also claim mail and wire fraud related to marketing the hacked firmware. 

In a nutshell, they refer to Blip and Winncomm as "co-conspirators" because 
they helped promote and distribute Elevate. 



On 8/10/2018 12:13 PM, Doug Hass wrote: 

<blockquote>

For those of you who want to see it, the complaint from the court case is 
attached. 


On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 11:10 AM Mathew Howard < [email protected] > wrote: 

<blockquote>

The thing I'm wondering about here, is what are they suing the WISP for (yes, 
I'm too lazy to go find the documents and read them)? 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:57 AM Lewis Bergman < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>
My statement still stands. 



On Fri, Aug 10, 2018, 10:10 AM Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

<blockquote>



Love the armchair discussion, with everyone shooting from the hip, without 
actually reading the article... 


================ 

Ubiquiti sued Illinois-based Cambium on Tuesday, claiming the company is 
selling firmware that changes the existing firmware on Ubiquiti's wireless 
equipment so it exceeds Ubiquiti's transmission thresholds, making it no longer 
compliant with the Federal Communications Commission's rules. 
================= 


No they are not suing for IP !, they cannot !.... 

They are making an interesting case..... 

I can also understand why they might be compelled to make such a case ! ( makes 
a for a very interesting liability responsibility ! ) 



Regards. 


Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
http://www.snappytelecom.net 

Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

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