PTP550 is just coming out, the software isn't even done.

If you only need ~2 mbps I'd go with a pair of Force 200 radios.  25dbi
dishes enough?  Set them in eptp mode and you'll be done.


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On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote:

> I ment 670, said 650... it's Friday and I'm ready for a beer.
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> EOL means it should get cheaper.  :-)
>>
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>> *From: *"Eric Muehleisen" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *[email protected]
>> *Sent: *Friday, August 17, 2018 12:52:48 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP400 replacement
>>
>>
>> The 650 is EOL. Go with the 670 and you can use it in multipoint mode and
>> save on radio costs.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:34 AM Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't put up a AC EPMP/PTP550 and expect it to be trouble free
>>> yet... the firmware is still being ironed out. Tried and true would
>>> probably be PTP650/PTP450 like Colin said.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Sam Lambie <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If bandwidth isn't an issue, I have a whole bunch of PTP 100's laying
>>>> around. Cheap....
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Huh. So the only real difference I need isn't available. Figures.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:22 AM [email protected] <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The PTP550 has two radios in it that you can bond together. The DSO
>>>>>> ability hasn't been released in firmware.
>>>>>> When the DSO is operational, it will only change one channel at a
>>>>>> time so the link never goes down. You can also set
>>>>>> the channel width separately for each radio. Another note is that
>>>>>> these radios have not yet been approved for DFS
>>>>>> frequencies, so that will be another firmware upgrade to enable that.
>>>>>> About 5ms latency. Another feature in future
>>>>>> firmware will be GPS sync from a CMM5. (Or Packetflux I'm sure)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Lewis Bergman <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I have a customer with a private PTP network built long ago,
>>>>>>> obviously, with PTP400 links. For years this has worked great and they 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> been happy. Recently, due to either lightening or another contractor 
>>>>>>> issue,
>>>>>>> one of the three sites (2 of the the total 6 backhauls) are now dead. I
>>>>>>> could probably find some ancient stuff and maybe replace these two but I
>>>>>>> thought now would be a good time to get them into some supportable
>>>>>>> equipment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like something as trouble free as the PTP400. Throughput is
>>>>>>> a non issue as they only need about 2Mbs. The main deal is reliability 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> my desire to not have to jack with the thing due to outside influences 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> they weather or interference. Basically as close to the 400's trouble 
>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>> operation as possible. Cost is a factor but not the primary one, yet
>>>>>>> something above $1000 each side is a non starter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have looked at the PTP550 which is based on an AC chipset but says
>>>>>>> it has:
>>>>>>> Dynamic Spectrum Optimization (DSO)* With Dynamic Spectrum
>>>>>>> Optimization, PTP 550 systems are constantly optimizing the channel of
>>>>>>> operation to maximize link reliability and performance. Based on
>>>>>>> environment the PTP 550 can be set to move or search better spectrum. 
>>>>>>> As a
>>>>>>> result, customer can get more throughput with limited spectrum in even 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> most challenging environments
>>>>>>> I also looked at the ePMP Force series, based on the same chipset. I
>>>>>>> have used a bunch of these before but not in this demanding (reliability
>>>>>>> wise) environment. All the Force stuff seem to have a sentence like 
>>>>>>> these:
>>>>>>> Configurable modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both
>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high performance 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 3-5 ms.
>>>>>>> Configurable Modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both
>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high performance 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 2 - 3 ms.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So I guess my question is, for those using these products, is there
>>>>>>> really a big difference between the PTP550 line and the Force line? They
>>>>>>> are both based on the AC chipset so while there is maybe quite a bit 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> can do to enhance that I can't imagine it would be earth shattering.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any recommendations?
>>>>>>>
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