Yup that too On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:13 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Or you could spend half as much and just buy two normal Force 180's and > spend an extra three minutes configuring them... > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:17 PM Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: > >> if you are going to go ePMP just buy the "bridge in a box" >> https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/backhaul/epmp-bridge-in-a-box/ >> >> it's around $300 for the pair of radios and put them in eptp mode like >> josh said. if you need more gain then buy what josh suggested. >> >> easy peasy lemon squeezy >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >>> PTP550 is just coming out, the software isn't even done. >>> >>> If you only need ~2 mbps I'd go with a pair of Force 200 radios. 25dbi >>> dishes enough? Set them in eptp mode and you'll be done. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I ment 670, said 650... it's Friday and I'm ready for a beer. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> EOL means it should get cheaper. :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From: *"Eric Muehleisen" <ericm...@gmail.com> >>>>> *To: *af@af.afmug.com >>>>> *Sent: *Friday, August 17, 2018 12:52:48 PM >>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP400 replacement >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The 650 is EOL. Go with the 670 and you can use it in multipoint mode >>>>> and save on radio costs. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:34 AM Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I wouldn't put up a AC EPMP/PTP550 and expect it to be trouble free >>>>>> yet... the firmware is still being ironed out. Tried and true would >>>>>> probably be PTP650/PTP450 like Colin said. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If bandwidth isn't an issue, I have a whole bunch of PTP 100's >>>>>>> laying around. Cheap.... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Huh. So the only real difference I need isn't available. Figures. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:22 AM can...@believewireless.net < >>>>>>>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The PTP550 has two radios in it that you can bond together. The >>>>>>>>> DSO ability hasn't been released in firmware. >>>>>>>>> When the DSO is operational, it will only change one channel at a >>>>>>>>> time so the link never goes down. You can also set >>>>>>>>> the channel width separately for each radio. Another note is that >>>>>>>>> these radios have not yet been approved for DFS >>>>>>>>> frequencies, so that will be another firmware upgrade to enable >>>>>>>>> that. About 5ms latency. Another feature in future >>>>>>>>> firmware will be GPS sync from a CMM5. (Or Packetflux I'm sure) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I have a customer with a private PTP network built long ago, >>>>>>>>>> obviously, with PTP400 links. For years this has worked great and >>>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>>> been happy. Recently, due to either lightening or another contractor >>>>>>>>>> issue, >>>>>>>>>> one of the three sites (2 of the the total 6 backhauls) are now >>>>>>>>>> dead. I >>>>>>>>>> could probably find some ancient stuff and maybe replace these two >>>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>>> thought now would be a good time to get them into some supportable >>>>>>>>>> equipment. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would like something as trouble free as the PTP400. Throughput >>>>>>>>>> is a non issue as they only need about 2Mbs. The main deal is >>>>>>>>>> reliability >>>>>>>>>> and my desire to not have to jack with the thing due to outside >>>>>>>>>> influences >>>>>>>>>> be they weather or interference. Basically as close to the 400's >>>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>>> free operation as possible. Cost is a factor but not the primary >>>>>>>>>> one, yet >>>>>>>>>> something above $1000 each side is a non starter. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have looked at the PTP550 which is based on an AC chipset but >>>>>>>>>> says it has: >>>>>>>>>> Dynamic Spectrum Optimization (DSO)* With Dynamic Spectrum >>>>>>>>>> Optimization, PTP 550 systems are constantly optimizing the channel >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> operation to maximize link reliability and performance. Based on >>>>>>>>>> environment the PTP 550 can be set to move or search better >>>>>>>>>> spectrum. As a >>>>>>>>>> result, customer can get more throughput with limited spectrum in >>>>>>>>>> even the >>>>>>>>>> most challenging environments >>>>>>>>>> I also looked at the ePMP Force series, based on the same >>>>>>>>>> chipset. I have used a bunch of these before but not in this >>>>>>>>>> demanding >>>>>>>>>> (reliability wise) environment. All the Force stuff seem to have a >>>>>>>>>> sentence >>>>>>>>>> like these: >>>>>>>>>> Configurable modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both >>>>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high >>>>>>>>>> performance and >>>>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 3-5 ms. >>>>>>>>>> Configurable Modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both >>>>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high >>>>>>>>>> performance and >>>>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 2 - 3 ms. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I guess my question is, for those using these products, is >>>>>>>>>> there really a big difference between the PTP550 line and the Force >>>>>>>>>> line? >>>>>>>>>> They are both based on the AC chipset so while there is maybe quite >>>>>>>>>> a bit >>>>>>>>>> they can do to enhance that I can't imagine it would be earth >>>>>>>>>> shattering. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any recommendations? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> *Sam Lambie* >>>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>>>>>> 575-758-7598 Office >>>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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