Or you could spend half as much and just buy two normal Force 180's and spend an extra three minutes configuring them...
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:17 PM Sean Heskett <[email protected]> wrote: > if you are going to go ePMP just buy the "bridge in a box" > https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/backhaul/epmp-bridge-in-a-box/ > > it's around $300 for the pair of radios and put them in eptp mode like > josh said. if you need more gain then buy what josh suggested. > > easy peasy lemon squeezy > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> PTP550 is just coming out, the software isn't even done. >> >> If you only need ~2 mbps I'd go with a pair of Force 200 radios. 25dbi >> dishes enough? Set them in eptp mode and you'll be done. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I ment 670, said 650... it's Friday and I'm ready for a beer. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> EOL means it should get cheaper. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Eric Muehleisen" <[email protected]> >>>> *To: *[email protected] >>>> *Sent: *Friday, August 17, 2018 12:52:48 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP400 replacement >>>> >>>> >>>> The 650 is EOL. Go with the 670 and you can use it in multipoint mode >>>> and save on radio costs. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:34 AM Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wouldn't put up a AC EPMP/PTP550 and expect it to be trouble free >>>>> yet... the firmware is still being ironed out. Tried and true would >>>>> probably be PTP650/PTP450 like Colin said. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Sam Lambie <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If bandwidth isn't an issue, I have a whole bunch of PTP 100's laying >>>>>> around. Cheap.... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM Lewis Bergman < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Huh. So the only real difference I need isn't available. Figures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:22 AM [email protected] < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The PTP550 has two radios in it that you can bond together. The DSO >>>>>>>> ability hasn't been released in firmware. >>>>>>>> When the DSO is operational, it will only change one channel at a >>>>>>>> time so the link never goes down. You can also set >>>>>>>> the channel width separately for each radio. Another note is that >>>>>>>> these radios have not yet been approved for DFS >>>>>>>> frequencies, so that will be another firmware upgrade to enable >>>>>>>> that. About 5ms latency. Another feature in future >>>>>>>> firmware will be GPS sync from a CMM5. (Or Packetflux I'm sure) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I have a customer with a private PTP network built long ago, >>>>>>>>> obviously, with PTP400 links. For years this has worked great and >>>>>>>>> they have >>>>>>>>> been happy. Recently, due to either lightening or another contractor >>>>>>>>> issue, >>>>>>>>> one of the three sites (2 of the the total 6 backhauls) are now dead. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> could probably find some ancient stuff and maybe replace these two >>>>>>>>> but I >>>>>>>>> thought now would be a good time to get them into some supportable >>>>>>>>> equipment. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would like something as trouble free as the PTP400. Throughput >>>>>>>>> is a non issue as they only need about 2Mbs. The main deal is >>>>>>>>> reliability >>>>>>>>> and my desire to not have to jack with the thing due to outside >>>>>>>>> influences >>>>>>>>> be they weather or interference. Basically as close to the 400's >>>>>>>>> trouble >>>>>>>>> free operation as possible. Cost is a factor but not the primary one, >>>>>>>>> yet >>>>>>>>> something above $1000 each side is a non starter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have looked at the PTP550 which is based on an AC chipset but >>>>>>>>> says it has: >>>>>>>>> Dynamic Spectrum Optimization (DSO)* With Dynamic Spectrum >>>>>>>>> Optimization, PTP 550 systems are constantly optimizing the channel of >>>>>>>>> operation to maximize link reliability and performance. Based on >>>>>>>>> environment the PTP 550 can be set to move or search better spectrum. >>>>>>>>> As a >>>>>>>>> result, customer can get more throughput with limited spectrum in >>>>>>>>> even the >>>>>>>>> most challenging environments >>>>>>>>> I also looked at the ePMP Force series, based on the same chipset. >>>>>>>>> I have used a bunch of these before but not in this demanding >>>>>>>>> (reliability >>>>>>>>> wise) environment. All the Force stuff seem to have a sentence like >>>>>>>>> these: >>>>>>>>> Configurable modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both >>>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high performance >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 3-5 ms. >>>>>>>>> Configurable Modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both >>>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high performance >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 2 - 3 ms. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I guess my question is, for those using these products, is >>>>>>>>> there really a big difference between the PTP550 line and the Force >>>>>>>>> line? >>>>>>>>> They are both based on the AC chipset so while there is maybe quite a >>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>> they can do to enhance that I can't imagine it would be earth >>>>>>>>> shattering. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any recommendations? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -- >>>>>> *Sam Lambie* >>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>>>>> 575-758-7598 Office >>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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