if you are going to go ePMP just buy the "bridge in a box" https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/backhaul/epmp-bridge-in-a-box/
it's around $300 for the pair of radios and put them in eptp mode like josh said. if you need more gain then buy what josh suggested. easy peasy lemon squeezy On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 1:45 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > PTP550 is just coming out, the software isn't even done. > > If you only need ~2 mbps I'd go with a pair of Force 200 radios. 25dbi > dishes enough? Set them in eptp mode and you'll be done. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:34 PM, Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I ment 670, said 650... it's Friday and I'm ready for a beer. >> >> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:55 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> EOL means it should get cheaper. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Eric Muehleisen" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Friday, August 17, 2018 12:52:48 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP400 replacement >>> >>> >>> The 650 is EOL. Go with the 670 and you can use it in multipoint mode >>> and save on radio costs. >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:34 AM Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I wouldn't put up a AC EPMP/PTP550 and expect it to be trouble free >>>> yet... the firmware is still being ironed out. Tried and true would >>>> probably be PTP650/PTP450 like Colin said. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Sam Lambie <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If bandwidth isn't an issue, I have a whole bunch of PTP 100's laying >>>>> around. Cheap.... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 9:55 AM Lewis Bergman <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Huh. So the only real difference I need isn't available. Figures. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 10:22 AM [email protected] < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The PTP550 has two radios in it that you can bond together. The DSO >>>>>>> ability hasn't been released in firmware. >>>>>>> When the DSO is operational, it will only change one channel at a >>>>>>> time so the link never goes down. You can also set >>>>>>> the channel width separately for each radio. Another note is that >>>>>>> these radios have not yet been approved for DFS >>>>>>> frequencies, so that will be another firmware upgrade to enable >>>>>>> that. About 5ms latency. Another feature in future >>>>>>> firmware will be GPS sync from a CMM5. (Or Packetflux I'm sure) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Lewis Bergman < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I have a customer with a private PTP network built long ago, >>>>>>>> obviously, with PTP400 links. For years this has worked great and they >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> been happy. Recently, due to either lightening or another contractor >>>>>>>> issue, >>>>>>>> one of the three sites (2 of the the total 6 backhauls) are now dead. I >>>>>>>> could probably find some ancient stuff and maybe replace these two but >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> thought now would be a good time to get them into some supportable >>>>>>>> equipment. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I would like something as trouble free as the PTP400. Throughput is >>>>>>>> a non issue as they only need about 2Mbs. The main deal is reliability >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> my desire to not have to jack with the thing due to outside influences >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> they weather or interference. Basically as close to the 400's trouble >>>>>>>> free >>>>>>>> operation as possible. Cost is a factor but not the primary one, yet >>>>>>>> something above $1000 each side is a non starter. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have looked at the PTP550 which is based on an AC chipset but >>>>>>>> says it has: >>>>>>>> Dynamic Spectrum Optimization (DSO)* With Dynamic Spectrum >>>>>>>> Optimization, PTP 550 systems are constantly optimizing the channel of >>>>>>>> operation to maximize link reliability and performance. Based on >>>>>>>> environment the PTP 550 can be set to move or search better spectrum. >>>>>>>> As a >>>>>>>> result, customer can get more throughput with limited spectrum in even >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> most challenging environments >>>>>>>> I also looked at the ePMP Force series, based on the same chipset. >>>>>>>> I have used a bunch of these before but not in this demanding >>>>>>>> (reliability >>>>>>>> wise) environment. All the Force stuff seem to have a sentence like >>>>>>>> these: >>>>>>>> Configurable modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both >>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high performance >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 3-5 ms. >>>>>>>> Configurable Modes of operation ensure robust adaptivity to both >>>>>>>> symmetrical and asymmetrical traffic while providing high performance >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> round-trip latency as low as 2 - 3 ms. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I guess my question is, for those using these products, is there >>>>>>>> really a big difference between the PTP550 line and the Force line? >>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>> are both based on the AC chipset so while there is maybe quite a bit >>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>> can do to enhance that I can't imagine it would be earth shattering. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any recommendations? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> -- >>>>> *Sam Lambie* >>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >>>>> 575-758-7598 Office >>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >
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