Getting the snow off the top with a shovel, sure. Extracting the fiber and
splice case from a 2x3x2ft block of solid ice without damaging them...
You'll need a big, heated Hydrovac. Some vaults are located higher up and
dry, but chances are that anything that fails due to cold would be the
ice-vaults.



On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 8:04 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> I guess I don’t understand construction in the great white north.  Why
> would you have to vacuum excavate and unfreeze a handhole?  Cannot you just
> shovel the snow off of it?
>
> *From:* Colin Stanners
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:59 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>
> In standard vaults; although rated for such I could never imagine
> direct-burying a splice case.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 7:56 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Are the splice cases in hand holes or bured?
>>
>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:51 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>
>> We're going to put these in splice cases that would cost easily thousands
>> of dollars to hydrovac-unfreeze and replace if a single splitter failed in
>> -40 degree winter... now Fiberstore SFPs are great but tell me, in the
>> above case would you put a $11 FS Splitter or a $60 huge-name-brand
>> splitter?
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 3:40 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Colin,
>>>
>>> $60.00?
>>>
>>> FS.com 1x16 PLC bare fiber $11.00
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *-- Best regards,Mark                            *mailto:[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Myakka Technologies, Inc.*www.MyakkaTech.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *------Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 3:18:14 PM, you wrote:*
>>>
>>> ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, concrete
>>> pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch is
>>> probably $10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not
>>> sure that it would be worth doing for only 30 homes.
>>>
>>> PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and
>>> require none of that support cost $60 each.
>>>
>>> Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty good
>>> when we still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK AP.
>>> And 10Gbit GPON seems to be coming soon...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and give all
>>> 30 homes active E.
>>>
>>> Each home needs a drop.
>>> So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP.
>>>
>>> With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you have no shared
>>> bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON etc...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Colin Stanners
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>
>>> That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If a new
>>> 30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, and
>>> you have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3
>>> strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why would you use
>>> this vs active ethernet?
>>>
>>> *From:* Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>
>>> It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
>>> It is brain dead simple to configure.
>>> Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  The ONU (cpe) can
>>> run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the routing/NAT speeds are
>>> capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without breaking a sweat.
>>>
>>> Jim Bouse
>>> Owner - Brazos WiFi
>>> 979-985-5912
>>> http://www.brazoswifi.com
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber
>>>
>>> Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production environment?  I
>>> have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it so I thought
>>> I'd check with the group.
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