I guess I don’t understand construction in the great white north.  Why would 
you have to vacuum excavate and unfreeze a handhole?  Cannot you just shovel 
the snow off of it?

From: Colin Stanners 
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:59 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

In standard vaults; although rated for such I could never imagine 
direct-burying a splice case. 



On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 7:56 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

  Are the splice cases in hand holes or bured?

  From: Colin Stanners 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 6:51 PM
  To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

  We're going to put these in splice cases that would cost easily thousands of 
dollars to hydrovac-unfreeze and replace if a single splitter failed in -40 
degree winter... now Fiberstore SFPs are great but tell me, in the above case 
would you put a $11 FS Splitter or a $60 huge-name-brand splitter?


  On Wed, Aug 29, 2018, 3:40 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Colin,

    $60.00?

    FS.com 1x16 PLC bare fiber $11.00

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    Wednesday, August 29, 2018, 3:18:14 PM, you wrote:


         ActiveEthernet: Property acquisition for the land, legal fees, 
concrete pad, electrical install, cabinet, UPS, heating/cooling, fiber switch 
is probably $10,000 - 15,000 including cost of time. When we're busy I'm not 
sure that it would be worth doing for only 30 homes.

          PON: two 1x16 fiber splitters that fit in existing splice cases and 
require none of that support cost $60 each.

          Shared bandwidth...16 customers sharing 2.5gbit fiber looks pretty 
good when we still have tower sites with 16 customers on a 10mbit 2.4Ghz FSK 
AP. And 10Gbit GPON seems to be coming soon... 




          On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 2:04 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

               If you have one strand going out there, you hang a switch and 
give all 30 homes active E.  

                Each home needs a drop.  
                So you have to connect the drop to either a splitter or an SFP. 
 

                With AE you will have to power the switch but then  you have no 
shared bandwidth, it has market cache vs shared bandwidth old fashioned GPON 
etc...



                From: Colin Stanners
                Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:57 PM
                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

                That's the main reason, and it branches into upgradeability. If 
a new 30-house subdivision appears in a field a few miles from your headend, 
and you have a spare 10 strands going out there, you only need to use 2-3 
strands instead of running new 48-strand cable the whole way.

                On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:53 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

                     So, other than the obvious strand count advantages, why 
would you use this vs active ethernet?

                      From: Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
                      Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:04 PM
                      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

                      It works fine.  We have it in 2 subdivisions.
                      It is brain dead simple to configure.
                      Since it “Just Works” there isn’t a lot to configure.  
The ONU (cpe) can run in bridge or router mode.  I’m not sure what the 
routing/NAT speeds are capable of but it will do 1G in bridge mode without 
breaking a sweat.

                      Jim Bouse
                      Owner - Brazos WiFi
                      979-985-5912
                      http://www.brazoswifi.com

                      From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jason 
McKemie
                      Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 12:17 PM
                      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
                      Subject: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Ufiber

                      Does anyone actually have this equipment in a production 
environment?  I have a test setup, just haven't heard much discussion about it 
so I thought I'd check with the group.

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