Thanks for the Fusion mention Dave.  We have worked hard the last several
years building a network that is WISP/FISP friendly, offering flexibility
in bandwidth costs, co-location, going where others would not, etc..
Steering around all of these resellers that have popped up the last few
years has been interesting.  A lot of them talk a big game. We are in
trenches everyday dealing with Att, Windstream, Zayo, etc..   If you want
to talk about Overheard costs to run a nationwide network, having colo in
multiple major cities, it is not cheap.  Don't get me started on x-connects
:(  but we try to stay as competitive as we can especially at our Primary
POP locations.    I actually don't understand why Cogent is giving
bandwidth away as they are, kind of a red flag IMO.  They also are not
peering friendly.  We are peering friendly.   We are closely priced to HE.
Oh and we are part of the WISP industry, we even deliver bandwidth via
licensed links to certain customers :)

Sincerely,

Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:33 AM Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

> This is why I like fusion.. I get a 10G but only charged for 1G. The pipe
> allows us to go over if we need it based on 96th percent.
>
>
>
> On 09/24/2018 01:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> 5 years is practically forever. The per gig sounds great but I am prone to
> look at it more in the terms of need. If you only need 5 gig but you buy 10
> to get it at a better price, you really just doubled your "perceived cost".
> To belabor the point, need 5 but bought 10 at $200 a gig? You just paid
> $400 a gig.
>
> I will say when we had HE, Cogent, and Level3, I was always shocked how
> much traffic went across the HE connection. I was expecting it to be the
> lowest utilized and it was always the highest with over 70% of the traffic
> with shaping or route forcing going on. Straight BGP.
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:36 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Given how much things change in 5 years, I would be extremely reluctant
>> to sign a 5 year contract for anything Internet or telecom related.
>> Granted you can usually renegotiate as long as it’s upward.
>>
>>
>>
>> 5 years is an eternity in Internet years.  Anything over 2 years makes me
>> uncomfortable.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 10:18 AM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA pricing
>>
>>
>>
>> HE is at $1,000 month for 10 Gig circuit on 5-year term.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:10 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just got quoted 3x that from Century Link.  Century Link's quote is
>> half of what we're paying now.
>>
>> On 9/24/2018 11:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> Latest circuit I am working on obtaining from Cogent is $220 per gig.  I
>> can get it as low as $150 if I take a 100G circuit.
>>
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