+1 for Fusion.  Working with Erich and Fusion in general has been great!

Josh

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 11:03 AM Erich Kaiser <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks for the Fusion mention Dave.  We have worked hard the last several
> years building a network that is WISP/FISP friendly, offering flexibility
> in bandwidth costs, co-location, going where others would not, etc..
> Steering around all of these resellers that have popped up the last few
> years has been interesting.  A lot of them talk a big game. We are in
> trenches everyday dealing with Att, Windstream, Zayo, etc..   If you want
> to talk about Overheard costs to run a nationwide network, having colo in
> multiple major cities, it is not cheap.  Don't get me started on x-connects
> :(  but we try to stay as competitive as we can especially at our Primary
> POP locations.    I actually don't understand why Cogent is giving
> bandwidth away as they are, kind of a red flag IMO.  They also are not
> peering friendly.  We are peering friendly.   We are closely priced to HE.
> Oh and we are part of the WISP industry, we even deliver bandwidth via
> licensed links to certain customers :)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Erich Kaiser
> The Fusion Network
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:33 AM Dave <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> This is why I like fusion.. I get a 10G but only charged for 1G. The pipe
>> allows us to go over if we need it based on 96th percent.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/24/2018 01:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>> 5 years is practically forever. The per gig sounds great but I am prone
>> to look at it more in the terms of need. If you only need 5 gig but you buy
>> 10 to get it at a better price, you really just doubled your "perceived
>> cost". To belabor the point, need 5 but bought 10 at $200 a gig? You just
>> paid $400 a gig.
>>
>> I will say when we had HE, Cogent, and Level3, I was always shocked how
>> much traffic went across the HE connection. I was expecting it to be the
>> lowest utilized and it was always the highest with over 70% of the traffic
>> with shaping or route forcing going on. Straight BGP.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:36 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Given how much things change in 5 years, I would be extremely reluctant
>>> to sign a 5 year contract for anything Internet or telecom related.
>>> Granted you can usually renegotiate as long as it’s upward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 5 years is an eternity in Internet years.  Anything over 2 years makes
>>> me uncomfortable.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 10:18 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DIA pricing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> HE is at $1,000 month for 10 Gig circuit on 5-year term.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:10 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just got quoted 3x that from Century Link.  Century Link's quote is
>>> half of what we're paying now.
>>>
>>> On 9/24/2018 11:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>>>
>>> Latest circuit I am working on obtaining from Cogent is $220 per gig.  I
>>> can get it as low as $150 if I take a 100G circuit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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