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From: Erich Kaiser 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 9:01 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA pricing

Thanks for the Fusion mention Dave.  We have worked hard the last several years 
building a network that is WISP/FISP friendly, offering flexibility in 
bandwidth costs, co-location, going where others would not, etc..  Steering 
around all of these resellers that have popped up the last few years has been 
interesting.  A lot of them talk a big game. We are in trenches everyday 
dealing with Att, Windstream, Zayo, etc..   If you want to talk about Overheard 
costs to run a nationwide network, having colo in multiple major cities, it is 
not cheap.  Don't get me started on x-connects :(  but we try to stay as 
competitive as we can especially at our Primary POP locations.    I actually 
don't understand why Cogent is giving bandwidth away as they are, kind of a red 
flag IMO.  They also are not peering friendly.  We are peering friendly.   We 
are closely priced to HE.  Oh and we are part of the WISP industry, we even 
deliver bandwidth via licensed links to certain customers :) 

Sincerely,

Erich Kaiser
The Fusion Network



On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:33 AM Dave <[email protected]> wrote:

  This is why I like fusion.. I get a 10G but only charged for 1G. The pipe 
allows us to go over if we need it based on 96th percent.




  On 09/24/2018 01:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

    5 years is practically forever. The per gig sounds great but I am prone to 
look at it more in the terms of need. If you only need 5 gig but you buy 10 to 
get it at a better price, you really just doubled your "perceived cost". To 
belabor the point, need 5 but bought 10 at $200 a gig? You just paid $400 a 
gig. 

    I will say when we had HE, Cogent, and Level3, I was always shocked how 
much traffic went across the HE connection. I was expecting it to be the lowest 
utilized and it was always the highest with over 70% of the traffic with 
shaping or route forcing going on. Straight BGP.


    On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:36 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

      Given how much things change in 5 years, I would be extremely reluctant 
to sign a 5 year contract for anything Internet or telecom related.  Granted 
you can usually renegotiate as long as it’s upward.



      5 years is an eternity in Internet years.  Anything over 2 years makes me 
uncomfortable.



      From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
      Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 10:18 AM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA pricing



      HE is at $1,000 month for 10 Gig circuit on 5-year term.



      On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 10:10 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

        I just got quoted 3x that from Century Link.  Century Link's quote is 
half of what we're paying now.

        On 9/24/2018 11:01 AM, [email protected] wrote:

          Latest circuit I am working on obtaining from Cogent is $220 per gig. 
 I can get it as low as $150 if I take a 100G circuit.  





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