All of the Cambium 3 GHz 450 products including the new 450m (Medusa) AP are 
undergoing part 96 certification now.  The 450m is already certified under part 
90.

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 2:03 PM
To: AFMUG <[email protected]>
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

Well, they've been saying that all the Canopy 3.65ghz stuff will be for a 
couple of years now, so I assume so, but I wasn't really paying very close 
attention.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 3:58 PM Ken Hohhof 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Did they say if it would also be certified under Part 96?

From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 3:39 PM
To: AFMUG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

Yeah, I don't remember exactly what they gave for a timeline, but I'm pretty 
sure they said it was supposed to be out this year. I got the impression it is 
getting certified under Part 90.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 2:42 PM Ken Hohhof 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
That’s not surprising, if it includes the MU-MIMO activation key.  I guess 
nutty is in the eye of the beholder.

But if it’s really available “soon”, I’m a little surprised, I was afraid they 
would wait to see what the FCC did with the PAL auction rules.  Also whether 
the industry decided that CBRS is only for LTE devices, even for fixed.

And I thought Ubiquiti had trademarked the term SOON™.

Anyway, I think something like LTE or cnMedusa is going to be necessary for 
CBRS, especially with the cost of paying a SAS vendor for each location and the 
cost of acquiring PAL licenses, and then only getting 10 MHz channels.  You 
don’t get much capacity from 10 MHz of spectrum unless you have all the fancy 
tricks like beam steering and bidirectional MU-MIMO, and of course at least 
256QAM.

From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

It's available very soon, but the pricing is nutty. $9k usd....

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Wait, 3.65 Medusa is available now?  I thought it was some undetermined date in 
the future.  Or did I misunderstand you?

From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
Dave
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:09 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

We have a few towers with TOWER TOP control and management.
The ones I designed are 24v and 48v.
We have only CMM4 boxes with the Planet switches which I use LC the hybrid 
cable comes from Besttronics.
We have a #12 stranded pair in each of these. I have to have transtector 
Part#1101-626 at top and bottom to meet our
surge protection compliance.
Since those sites have been installed I have had zero issues.

Seems that 3.65Medusa has made us change to a more direct connection so my box 
design will have to be modified.
All of the Orange tag cables will have to be removed since the packet flux will 
not support the new power requirements

Here is one design we have plans to deploy next week.
On 09/22/2018 05:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Are most people using SC or LC at the top of the tower? I want to use LC most 
everywhere I can, but I understand the advantage in SC on a tower where it's 
easier to work with larger things.

What's the next bigger enclosure? Could you put something like this on a 
swinging panel where I could run a trunk cable into it and then plug individual 
patch cables going to each radio? Maybe easier on you if you just make it work 
with something else on the market, like these panels from FiberStore where 
someone can just get whatever panel they want (LC\SC\whatever)?

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The goal is to emulate one of these:
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Power and fiber in one box, transition from trunk to the ground to the radios.

I'm sure they'd sell well.


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From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:51:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
Can put in a patch panel.  Just a mechanical thing to solve.
But patch panels have cutouts for couplers.  And different couplers need 
different size holes in the part that holds them in.
So if someone could tell me which coupler will always be needed, then this is 
easy.

Otherwise I have to offer a variety of coupler options and that multiplies my 
part numbers etc etc.
Happy to do that but not if I only sell 1 per month.

From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

When do we see a 48v one of these? Also, more density?

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