Maybe a pal named YAGI?

On 09/25/2018 12:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Does BBU have a pal named YOGI who likes picnic baskets?

*From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Gino A. Villarini
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 25, 2018 12:46 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

Yeah, The BBU

*From: *AF <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Mathew Howard <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

/*Gino A. Villarini*/

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Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

*Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Date: *Monday, September 24, 2018 at 9:41 PM
*To: *AFMUG <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

Oh, that's pretty interesting. I assume you would still need to add the box (whose name escapes me, at the moment), that the LTE radio heads connect to.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 8:16 PM Jon Langeler <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    They said it is a software defined radio. When they release LTE for
    3G later, same hardware as 450m. They probably aren’t going to push
    it as a selling point until it’s tested.

    Jon Langeler

    Michwave Technologies, Inc.


    On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I think you're probably confusing two different things regarding
        3ghz 450m being able to do LTE - I don't remember hearing about
        anything like that, but Cambium does have actual LTE gear in the
        works. It's initially only going to be 2.5ghz, but they did say
        they're planning on doing 3ghz as well after that's out (I'm
        assuming they're waiting for CBRS to actually be usable).

        On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 5:23 PM Jon Langeler
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        wrote:

            Baicells just announced 5Ghz LTE, might be others.

            The brains of the Cambium 3G Medusa is apparently supposed
            to be capable of LTE modulation is what I thought I heard at
            the roadshow. It would be a future software option.

            Jon Langeler

            Michwave Technologies, Inc.


            On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:12 PM, <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I really have not been paying any attention to this, but
                is there an unlicensed LTE radio?

                Meaning an unlicensed radio that uses LTE modulation
                methods.

                *From:*Adam Moffett

                *Sent:*Monday, September 24, 2018 4:09 PM

                *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

                *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

                What's nice LTE?  Baicells?
                A Telrad eNB might be "only" $7k, but you'll be north of
                $9k by the time you figure out all the licenses you need.

                I'd be curious about a 3.65 Medusa, but I wonder if I
                can set TDD parameters that will line up with our
                existing LTE frames.
                -Adam


                On 9/24/2018 3:45 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:

                    It's gonna be on display in Vegas. I'm not even in
                    USA so the CBRS stuff isn't really affecting us
                    right now, but when you start looking at 9k per ap
                    you could get some nice LTE instead.

                    It's just surprising being 2k more than the 5ghz
                    pmp450m. Especially with the cost of the SM being
                    higher as well, but maybe the 450b 3.65 will solve
                    that? Time will tell I guess.

                    On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Ken Hohhof
                    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                        That’s not surprising, if it includes the
                        MU-MIMO activation key.  I guess nutty is in the
                        eye of the beholder.

                        But if it’s really available “soon”, I’m a
                        little surprised, I was afraid they would wait
                        to see what the FCC did with the PAL auction
                        rules.  Also whether the industry decided that
                        CBRS is only for LTE devices, even for fixed.

                        And I thought Ubiquiti had trademarked the term
                        SOON™.

                        Anyway, I think something like LTE or cnMedusa
                        is going to be necessary for CBRS, especially
                        with the cost of paying a SAS vendor for each
                        location and the cost of acquiring PAL licenses,
                        and then only getting 10 MHz channels.  You
                        don’t get much capacity from 10 MHz of spectrum
                        unless you have all the fancy tricks like beam
                        steering and bidirectional MU-MIMO, and of
                        course at least 256QAM.

                        *From:*AF <[email protected]
                        <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf Of
                        *Ryan Ray
                        *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 1:31 PM
                        *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>

                        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

                        It's available very soon, but the pricing is
                        nutty. $9k usd....

                        On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof
                        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                            Wait, 3.65 Medusa is available now?  I
                            thought it was some undetermined date in the
                            future.  Or did I misunderstand you?

                            *From:*AF <[email protected]
                            <mailto:[email protected]>> *On Behalf
                            Of *Dave
                            *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 8:09 AM
                            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>


                            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

                            We have a few towers with TOWER TOP control
                            and management.
                            The ones I designed are 24v and 48v.
                            We have only CMM4 boxes with the Planet
                            switches which I use LC the hybrid cable
                            comes from Besttronics.
                            We have a #12 stranded pair in each of
                            these. I have to have transtector
                            Part#1101-626 at top and bottom to meet our
                            surge protection compliance.
                            Since those sites have been installed I have
                            had zero issues.

                            Seems that 3.65Medusa has made us change to
                            a more direct connection so my box design
                            will have to be modified.
                            All of the Orange tag cables will have to be
                            removed since the packet flux will not
                            support the new power requirements

                            Here is one design we have plans to deploy
                            next week.
                            <image003.jpg>

                            On 09/22/2018 05:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

                                Are most people using SC or LC at the
                                top of the tower? I want to use LC most
                                everywhere I can, but I understand the
                                advantage in SC on a tower where it's
                                easier to work with larger things.

                                What's the next bigger enclosure? Could
                                you put something like this on a
                                swinging panel where I could run a trunk
                                cable into it and then plug individual
                                patch cables going to each radio? Maybe
                                easier on you if you just make it work
                                with something else on the market, like
                                these panels from FiberStore where
                                someone can just get whatever panel they
                                want (LC\SC\whatever)?

                                https://www.fs.com/products/68962.html

                                The goal is to emulate one of these:
                                
https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/DC6-48-60-0-8C-EV_320-1318.pdf
                                
https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DC6-48-60-18-8C-EV_320-1315-1.pdf

                                Power and fiber in one box, transition
                                from trunk to the ground to the radios.

                                I'm sure they'd sell well.



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                                *From: *"Chuck McCown"
                                mailto:[email protected]
                                *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
                                mailto:[email protected]
                                *Sent: *Saturday, September 22, 2018
                                4:51:48 PM
                                *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

                                Can put in a patch panel.  Just a
                                mechanical thing to solve.

                                But patch panels have cutouts for
                                couplers.  And different couplers need
                                different size holes in the part that
                                holds them in.

                                So if someone could tell me which
                                coupler will always be needed, then this
                                is easy.

                                Otherwise I have to offer a variety of
                                coupler options and that multiplies my
                                part numbers etc etc.

                                Happy to do that but not if I only sell
                                1 per month.

                                *From:*Mike Hammett

                                *Sent:*Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 AM

                                *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

                                *Subject:*[AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

                                When do we see a 48v one of these? Also,
                                more density?

                                
http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-relay-output/

                                When do we see one of these with a fiber
                                patch panel and slack storage?

                                
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/8-circuit-outdoor-dc-power-line-surge-suppressor-protector-copy/



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