Yeah, The BBU

From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of 
Mathew Howard <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>



Gino A. Villarini


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Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 9:41 PM
To: AFMUG <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

Oh, that's pretty interesting. I assume you would still need to add the box 
(whose name escapes me, at the moment), that the LTE radio heads connect to.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 8:16 PM Jon Langeler 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
They said it is a software defined radio. When they release LTE for 3G later, 
same hardware as 450m. They probably aren’t going to push it as a selling point 
until it’s tested.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I think you're probably confusing two different things regarding 3ghz 450m 
being able to do LTE - I don't remember hearing about anything like that, but 
Cambium does have actual LTE gear in the works. It's initially only going to be 
2.5ghz, but they did say they're planning on doing 3ghz as well after that's 
out (I'm assuming they're waiting for CBRS to actually be usable).

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 5:23 PM Jon Langeler 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Baicells just announced 5Ghz LTE, might be others.

The brains of the Cambium 3G Medusa is apparently supposed to be capable of LTE 
modulation is what I thought I heard at the roadshow. It would be a future 
software option.

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:12 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I really have not been paying any attention to this, but is there an unlicensed 
LTE radio?
Meaning an unlicensed radio that uses LTE modulation methods.

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

What's nice LTE?  Baicells?
A Telrad eNB might be "only" $7k, but you'll be north of $9k by the time you 
figure out all the licenses you need.

I'd be curious about a 3.65 Medusa, but I wonder if I can set TDD parameters 
that will line up with our existing LTE frames.
-Adam



On 9/24/2018 3:45 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
It's gonna be on display in Vegas. I'm not even in USA so the CBRS stuff isn't 
really affecting us right now, but when you start looking at 9k per ap you 
could get some nice LTE instead.

It's just surprising being 2k more than the 5ghz pmp450m. Especially with the 
cost of the SM being higher as well, but maybe the 450b 3.65 will solve that? 
Time will tell I guess.


On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
That’s not surprising, if it includes the MU-MIMO activation key.  I guess 
nutty is in the eye of the beholder.

But if it’s really available “soon”, I’m a little surprised, I was afraid they 
would wait to see what the FCC did with the PAL auction rules.  Also whether 
the industry decided that CBRS is only for LTE devices, even for fixed.

And I thought Ubiquiti had trademarked the term SOON™.

Anyway, I think something like LTE or cnMedusa is going to be necessary for 
CBRS, especially with the cost of paying a SAS vendor for each location and the 
cost of acquiring PAL licenses, and then only getting 10 MHz channels.  You 
don’t get much capacity from 10 MHz of spectrum unless you have all the fancy 
tricks like beam steering and bidirectional MU-MIMO, and of course at least 
256QAM.

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:31 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

It's available very soon, but the pricing is nutty. $9k usd....

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
Wait, 3.65 Medusa is available now?  I thought it was some undetermined date in 
the future.  Or did I misunderstand you?

From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:09 AM
To: [email protected]

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

We have a few towers with TOWER TOP control and management.
The ones I designed are 24v and 48v.
We have only CMM4 boxes with the Planet switches which I use LC the hybrid 
cable comes from Besttronics.
We have a #12 stranded pair in each of these. I have to have transtector 
Part#1101-626 at top and bottom to meet our
surge protection compliance.
Since those sites have been installed I have had zero issues.

Seems that 3.65Medusa has made us change to a more direct connection so my box 
design will have to be modified.
All of the Orange tag cables will have to be removed since the packet flux will 
not support the new power requirements

Here is one design we have plans to deploy next week.
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On 09/22/2018 05:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Are most people using SC or LC at the top of the tower? I want to use LC most 
everywhere I can, but I understand the advantage in SC on a tower where it's 
easier to work with larger things.

What's the next bigger enclosure? Could you put something like this on a 
swinging panel where I could run a trunk cable into it and then plug individual 
patch cables going to each radio? Maybe easier on you if you just make it work 
with something else on the market, like these panels from FiberStore where 
someone can just get whatever panel they want (LC\SC\whatever)?

https://www.fs.com/products/68962.html

The goal is to emulate one of these:
https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/DC6-48-60-0-8C-EV_320-1318.pdf
https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DC6-48-60-18-8C-EV_320-1315-1.pdf

Power and fiber in one box, transition from trunk to the ground to the radios.

I'm sure they'd sell well.


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________________________________
From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:51:48 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
Can put in a patch panel.  Just a mechanical thing to solve.
But patch panels have cutouts for couplers.  And different couplers need 
different size holes in the part that holds them in.
So if someone could tell me which coupler will always be needed, then this is 
easy.

Otherwise I have to offer a variety of coupler options and that multiplies my 
part numbers etc etc.
Happy to do that but not if I only sell 1 per month.

From: Mike Hammett
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber

When do we see a 48v one of these? Also, more density?

http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-relay-output/

When do we see one of these with a fiber patch panel and slack storage?

https://www.mccowntech.com/product/8-circuit-outdoor-dc-power-line-surge-suppressor-protector-copy/


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