Oh, that's pretty interesting. I assume you would still need to add the box
(whose name escapes me, at the moment), that the LTE radio heads connect
to.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 8:16 PM Jon Langeler <[email protected]>
wrote:

> They said it is a software defined radio. When they release LTE for 3G
> later, same hardware as 450m. They probably aren’t going to push it as a
> selling point until it’s tested.
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I think you're probably confusing two different things regarding 3ghz 450m
> being able to do LTE - I don't remember hearing about anything like that,
> but Cambium does have actual LTE gear in the works. It's initially only
> going to be 2.5ghz, but they did say they're planning on doing 3ghz as well
> after that's out (I'm assuming they're waiting for CBRS to actually be
> usable).
>
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 5:23 PM Jon Langeler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Baicells just announced 5Ghz LTE, might be others.
>>
>> The brains of the Cambium 3G Medusa is apparently supposed to be capable
>> of LTE modulation is what I thought I heard at the roadshow. It would be a
>> future software option.
>>
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:12 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I really have not been paying any attention to this, but is there an
>> unlicensed LTE radio?
>> Meaning an unlicensed radio that uses LTE modulation methods.
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 4:09 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>
>> What's nice LTE?  Baicells?
>> A Telrad eNB might be "only" $7k, but you'll be north of $9k by the time
>> you figure out all the licenses you need.
>>
>> I'd be curious about a 3.65 Medusa, but I wonder if I can set TDD
>> parameters that will line up with our existing LTE frames.
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2018 3:45 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>> It's gonna be on display in Vegas. I'm not even in USA so the CBRS stuff
>> isn't really affecting us right now, but when you start looking at 9k per
>> ap you could get some nice LTE instead.
>>
>> It's just surprising being 2k more than the 5ghz pmp450m. Especially with
>> the cost of the SM being higher as well, but maybe the 450b 3.65 will solve
>> that? Time will tell I guess.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> That’s not surprising, if it includes the MU-MIMO activation key.  I
>>> guess nutty is in the eye of the beholder.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But if it’s really available “soon”, I’m a little surprised, I was
>>> afraid they would wait to see what the FCC did with the PAL auction rules.
>>> Also whether the industry decided that CBRS is only for LTE devices, even
>>> for fixed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And I thought Ubiquiti had trademarked the term SOON™.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyway, I think something like LTE or cnMedusa is going to be necessary
>>> for CBRS, especially with the cost of paying a SAS vendor for each location
>>> and the cost of acquiring PAL licenses, and then only getting 10 MHz
>>> channels.  You don’t get much capacity from 10 MHz of spectrum unless you
>>> have all the fancy tricks like beam steering and bidirectional MU-MIMO, and
>>> of course at least 256QAM.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ryan Ray
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 1:31 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's available very soon, but the pricing is nutty. $9k usd....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Wait, 3.65 Medusa is available now?  I thought it was some undetermined
>>> date in the future.  Or did I misunderstand you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Dave
>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2018 8:09 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have a few towers with TOWER TOP control and management.
>>> The ones I designed are 24v and 48v.
>>> We have only CMM4 boxes with the Planet switches which I use LC the
>>> hybrid cable comes from Besttronics.
>>> We have a #12 stranded pair in each of these. I have to have transtector
>>> Part#1101-626 at top and bottom to meet our
>>> surge protection compliance.
>>> Since those sites have been installed I have had zero issues.
>>>
>>> Seems that 3.65Medusa has made us change to a more direct connection so
>>> my box design will have to be modified.
>>> All of the Orange tag cables will have to be removed since the packet
>>> flux will not support the new power requirements
>>>
>>> Here is one design we have plans to deploy next week.
>>> <image003.jpg>
>>>
>>> On 09/22/2018 05:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>
>>> Are most people using SC or LC at the top of the tower? I want to use LC
>>> most everywhere I can, but I understand the advantage in SC on a tower
>>> where it's easier to work with larger things.
>>>
>>> What's the next bigger enclosure? Could you put something like this on a
>>> swinging panel where I could run a trunk cable into it and then plug
>>> individual patch cables going to each radio? Maybe easier on you if you
>>> just make it work with something else on the market, like these panels from
>>> FiberStore where someone can just get whatever panel they want
>>> (LC\SC\whatever)?
>>>
>>> https://www.fs.com/products/68962.html
>>>
>>> The goal is to emulate one of these:
>>> https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/DC6-48-60-0-8C-EV_320-1318.pdf
>>>
>>> https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DC6-48-60-18-8C-EV_320-1315-1.pdf
>>>
>>> Power and fiber in one box, transition from trunk to the ground to the
>>> radios.
>>>
>>> I'm sure they'd sell well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
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>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
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>>>
>>>
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
>>> *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
>>> *Sent: *Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:51:48 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>
>>> Can put in a patch panel.  Just a mechanical thing to solve.
>>>
>>> But patch panels have cutouts for couplers.  And different couplers need
>>> different size holes in the part that holds them in.
>>>
>>> So if someone could tell me which coupler will always be needed, then
>>> this is easy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Otherwise I have to offer a variety of coupler options and that
>>> multiplies my part numbers etc etc.
>>>
>>> Happy to do that but not if I only sell 1 per month.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Mike Hammett
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 AM
>>>
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> When do we see a 48v one of these? Also, more density?
>>>
>>> http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-relay-output/
>>>
>>> When do we see one of these with a fiber patch panel and slack storage?
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/8-circuit-outdoor-dc-power-line-surge-suppressor-protector-copy/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>
>>>
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