They said it is a software defined radio. When they release LTE for 3G later, 
same hardware as 450m. They probably aren’t going to push it as a selling point 
until it’s tested. 

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.


> On Sep 24, 2018, at 8:32 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I think you're probably confusing two different things regarding 3ghz 450m 
> being able to do LTE - I don't remember hearing about anything like that, but 
> Cambium does have actual LTE gear in the works. It's initially only going to 
> be 2.5ghz, but they did say they're planning on doing 3ghz as well after 
> that's out (I'm assuming they're waiting for CBRS to actually be usable).
> 
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 5:23 PM Jon Langeler <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> Baicells just announced 5Ghz LTE, might be others.
>> 
>> The brains of the Cambium 3G Medusa is apparently supposed to be capable of 
>> LTE modulation is what I thought I heard at the roadshow. It would be a 
>> future software option. 
>> 
>> Jon Langeler
>> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2018, at 6:12 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I really have not been paying any attention to this, but is there an 
>>> unlicensed LTE radio?
>>> Meaning an unlicensed radio that uses LTE modulation methods. 
>>>  
>>> From: Adam Moffett
>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 4:09 PM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>  
>>> What's nice LTE?  Baicells?
>>> A Telrad eNB might be "only" $7k, but you'll be north of $9k by the time 
>>> you figure out all the licenses you need.
>>> 
>>> I'd be curious about a 3.65 Medusa, but I wonder if I can set TDD 
>>> parameters that will line up with our existing LTE frames.
>>> -Adam
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 9/24/2018 3:45 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>>> It's gonna be on display in Vegas. I'm not even in USA so the CBRS stuff 
>>>> isn't really affecting us right now, but when you start looking at 9k per 
>>>> ap you could get some nice LTE instead. 
>>>>  
>>>> It's just surprising being 2k more than the 5ghz pmp450m. Especially with 
>>>> the cost of the SM being higher as well, but maybe the 450b 3.65 will 
>>>> solve that? Time will tell I guess.
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> That’s not surprising, if it includes the MU-MIMO activation key.  I 
>>>>> guess nutty is in the eye of the beholder.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> But if it’s really available “soon”, I’m a little surprised, I was afraid 
>>>>> they would wait to see what the FCC did with the PAL auction rules.  Also 
>>>>> whether the industry decided that CBRS is only for LTE devices, even for 
>>>>> fixed.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> And I thought Ubiquiti had trademarked the term SOON™.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyway, I think something like LTE or cnMedusa is going to be necessary 
>>>>> for CBRS, especially with the cost of paying a SAS vendor for each 
>>>>> location and the cost of acquiring PAL licenses, and then only getting 10 
>>>>> MHz channels.  You don’t get much capacity from 10 MHz of spectrum unless 
>>>>> you have all the fancy tricks like beam steering and bidirectional 
>>>>> MU-MIMO, and of course at least 256QAM.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ryan Ray
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 1:31 PM
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's available very soon, but the pricing is nutty. $9k usd....
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 6:47 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wait, 3.65 Medusa is available now?  I thought it was some undetermined 
>>>>> date in the future.  Or did I misunderstand you?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dave
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2018 8:09 AM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have a few towers with TOWER TOP control and management.
>>>>> The ones I designed are 24v and 48v. 
>>>>> We have only CMM4 boxes with the Planet switches which I use LC the 
>>>>> hybrid cable comes from Besttronics.
>>>>> We have a #12 stranded pair in each of these. I have to have transtector 
>>>>> Part#1101-626 at top and bottom to meet our
>>>>> surge protection compliance. 
>>>>> Since those sites have been installed I have had zero issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems that 3.65Medusa has made us change to a more direct connection so 
>>>>> my box design will have to be modified.
>>>>> All of the Orange tag cables will have to be removed since the packet 
>>>>> flux will not support the new power requirements
>>>>> 
>>>>> Here is one design we have plans to deploy next week.
>>>>> <image003.jpg>
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 09/22/2018 05:05 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Are most people using SC or LC at the top of the tower? I want to use LC 
>>>>> most everywhere I can, but I understand the advantage in SC on a tower 
>>>>> where it's easier to work with larger things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What's the next bigger enclosure? Could you put something like this on a 
>>>>> swinging panel where I could run a trunk cable into it and then plug 
>>>>> individual patch cables going to each radio? Maybe easier on you if you 
>>>>> just make it work with something else on the market, like these panels 
>>>>> from FiberStore where someone can just get whatever panel they want 
>>>>> (LC\SC\whatever)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/68962.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> The goal is to emulate one of these:
>>>>> https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/DC6-48-60-0-8C-EV_320-1318.pdf
>>>>> https://www.raycap.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/DC6-48-60-18-8C-EV_320-1315-1.pdf
>>>>> 
>>>>> Power and fiber in one box, transition from trunk to the ground to the 
>>>>> radios.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sure they'd sell well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Chuck McCown" mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 4:51:48 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can put in a patch panel.  Just a mechanical thing to solve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But patch panels have cutouts for couplers.  And different couplers need 
>>>>> different size holes in the part that holds them in.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So if someone could tell me which coupler will always be needed, then 
>>>>> this is easy. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Otherwise I have to offer a variety of coupler options and that 
>>>>> multiplies my part numbers etc etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Happy to do that but not if I only sell 1 per month. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Mike Hammett
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:46 AM
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] DC+ Fiber
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> When do we see a 48v one of these? Also, more density?
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-relay-output/
>>>>> 
>>>>> When do we see one of these with a fiber patch panel and slack storage?
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://www.mccowntech.com/product/8-circuit-outdoor-dc-power-line-surge-suppressor-protector-copy/
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Brothers WISP
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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