UP has a bunch of different purpose radio links out here, for much more than just PTC. We have a few towers of theirs near town. They watch them like hawks for unauthorized visitors.. Some of them have great siting that many would like access to for building towers... Don't bother asking...

On 9/28/18 5:53 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Well, that is pretty opaque. But I will mention that if you're talking about UP, their radio system is for positive train control. You have to do no more than watch the news to realize how important it is. Maybe that isn't what you are taking about.

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018, 6:29 PM Robert <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    And at the same time utterly cutthroat..   Old school biz and not one
    bit dedicated in staying that way other than the good biz parts..   Do
    not go _near_ their radio stuff without permission...

    On 9/28/18 1:54 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
     > Oh and by the way, my short experience taught me a great deal
    about UPR.
     > What I learned is that they are a fantastic company in all respects.
     > Everyone I dealt with was knowledgeable, very competent, and just
    really
     > great to work with. I have no doubt if they have the will to
    succeed as
     > a WISP they would. They may have decided they don't have the will.
     >
     > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 3:51 PM Lewis Bergman
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     > <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >
     >     I have insight I cannot divulge due to an NDA. I think it is
    safe to
     >     say they were using more than 3.65. Being UPR it wouldn't be a
     >     violation to state that they have a deep corporate culture since
     >     they are an enormous company.
     >
     >     This is purely speculation, but it may be that they successfully
     >     determined what they wanted to know. So in that respect, if it is
     >     true they are shutting down, they may have decided that the
     >     miniscule profit turned by even a wildly successful WISP is a
     >     fraction of a drop in the bucket in comparison to the kind of
    money
     >     they make in a month. If you have ever looked at their SEC
    filings
     >     you know what I mean. In the end, it may have served as more of a
     >     distraction than anything else. All of that is purely
    speculation as
     >     I was only involved in the pre deployment stage.
     >
     >     On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 11:09 AM Cameron Crum
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     >     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >
     >         They sure did have grand plans, but I think their
    approach was a
     >         little too corporate based on the RFQ I saw a year and a
    half ago.
     >
     >         On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 9:26 AM Jon Langeler
     >         <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>>
     >         wrote:
     >
     >             It’s probably an over the air data rate advertised on
    the box.
     >
     >             Jon Langeler
     >             Michwave Technologies, Inc.
     >
     >
     >             On Sep 28, 2018, at 10:18 AM, Ken Hohhof
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     >             <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
     >
     >>             Strange, I never heard of them before.____
     >>
     >>             __ __
     >>
     >>             “The company’s service cost between $50 and $90 for
     >>             download speeds of up to 58 Mbps, using spectrum in the
     >>             licensed 3650-3700 MHz range.”____
     >>
     >>             __ __
     >>
     >>             58 Mbps is a lot in a band with a total of 50 MHz and
     >>             where channel size is typically 10 MHz.  It’s also a
     >>             strangely specific speed.____
     >>
     >>             __ __
     >>
     >>             __ __
     >>
     >>             *From:* AF <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>
     >>             <mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
     >>             *Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2018 7:51 AM
     >>             *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
     >>             <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
     >>             *Subject:* [AFMUG] So much for that...____
     >>
     >>             __ __
     >>
     >>
    
https://www.fiercewireless.com/wireless/breeze-broadband-to-discontinue-fixed-wireless-internet-service____
     >>
     >>             __ __
     >>
     >>
     >>
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     >>             Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
     >>             Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
     >>             The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
     >>             <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
     >>
     >>
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