That's good intel, thanks.

Is it a bridge, or is it a media converter proper?  If it's truly a media converter, then like someone mentioned, if you had 1000base on the fiber, you'd need 1000base on the copper.  A store and forward bridge could negotiate two different speeds and be ok.  Just wondering.

-Adam


On 10/9/2018 8:51 PM, Chris Fabien wrote:
We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11.  Overall very few problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had an SFP fail  We normally put them inside another NID but do have a couple installed bare exposed to rain and have been fine. Not really enough room in the FTC11 to just run the drop to it, that's the reason for the NID.

We have switched to GPON for new customers but these will stay in service until they have a problem or customer wants IPTV which requires GPON on our network.


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 3:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I just noticed the knockouts on it are for a round cable.  I
    wonder if you are supposed to splice into a round cable at the
    house, or if you're supposed to commit to round drop cable.


    On 10/8/2018 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    Cheap indeed.  Too bad they don’t offer the RB in the same form
    factor.
    *From:* Adam Moffett
    *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 1:33 PM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
    By the way Chuck, Mikrotik makes an outdoor, PoE powered media
    converter.  Not sure if you've seen it:
    https://mikrotik.com/product/RBFTC11

    I have not used it.  I believe it's unmanaged.  It's certainly
    cheap enough.


    On 10/8/2018 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
    Pretty nice.  What is the price?
    What will it talk to on the other end?
    Sure could come in handy where you want to mix pon and AE.
    *From:* Gino A. Villarini
    *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:54 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap

    Any comments on this?

    10G OLT SFP+ for Ethernet SFP cages:

    
http://tibitcom.com/wp-content/assets/Tibit-Universal-OLT-SFP-Product-Brief-v1.0.pdf

    *From: *AF mailto:[email protected] on behalf of Adam
    Moffett mailto:[email protected]
    *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
    *Date: *Monday, October 8, 2018 at 2:50 PM
    *To: *mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected]
    *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap

    Sometimes I've had an ethernet connection be "up" but not pass
    any traffic.  I feel better if there's something I can ping at
    layer3 on the other end.

    If I'm being fair, I'd say that condition isn't super common,
    and when it happens you can fix it by resetting either end.  As
    long as the customer is trained to reboot the media converter
    maybe it's ok.

    On 10/8/2018 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

        If it is up and nothing more than a bridge, you should be
        able to do everything you want to do from the NOC I would
        think?  Am I naive?

        *From:*Adam Moffett

        *Sent:*Monday, October 08, 2018 12:39 PM

        *To:*[email protected]

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap

        I have a bias against unmanaged devices.  I want to be able
        to prove there's connectivity all the way to the customer
        prem without having anyone physically there.  For $60-100
        you can have a router or a managed switch.

        With ethernet is it sufficient to have an "up" on the switch
        interface?

        I also suppose if they're unmanaged they can't be hacked and
        don't need firmware upgrades.  I could be convinced, but
        like I said, I have a bias.

        On 10/8/2018 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

            https://www.fs.com/products/35333.html

            It has storage specs to –20C.  Not sure why operating
            temps are 0C on the lower end.  But if it is inside an
            enclosure it will self heat.

            $23 plus the $9 SFP.

            https://www.fs.com/products/37922.html

            $32 plus enclosure.  Pretty low cost per customer doing
            it this way.

            I know Sterling uses MTs for much the same thing, but if
            I remember he cannot get the one he likes any longer.

            I like this as there is zero config here.  Dumb media
            converter.  Put all your smarts at your router or switch.



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