Are you having supply issues with the ZTE gear?

On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:

> We tested the UBNT gear back when it first came out. Didnt like their
> management system and they changed the temp rating on the ONU to only 0C
> which killed a key benefit being able to switch existing wireless customers
> using existing cat5 run.
>
> Happy with ZTE. The ONUs the various models seem to have few different
> quirks but overall the platform is stable and mature. We use smartOLT a
> third party management system, very nice interface and they know the system
> very well and are a good support resource.
>
> I dont have the $$ for calix adtran etc so this was the only option we
> could realistically start using GPON which has really helped us lower cost
> in our rural low density FTTH. We use optical tap splitting almost
> everywhere to reduce strand count.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 8:08 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You like it?  Have you  used other GPON gear?
>>
>> *From:* Chris Fabien via AF
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:08 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Cc:* Chris Fabien
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>
>> ZTE.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:14 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Whose GPON are you using?
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:51 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>
>>> We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11.  Overall very few
>>> problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had an SFP fail
>>> We normally put them inside another NID but do have a couple installed
>>> bare exposed to rain and have been fine. Not really enough room in the
>>> FTC11 to just run the drop to it, that's the reason for the NID.
>>>
>>> We have switched to GPON for new customers but these will stay in
>>> service until they have a problem or customer wants IPTV which requires
>>> GPON on our network.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 3:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just noticed the knockouts on it are for a round cable.  I wonder if
>>>> you are supposed to splice into a round cable at the house, or if you're
>>>> supposed to commit to round drop cable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/8/2018 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Cheap indeed.  Too bad they don’t offer the RB in the same form
>>>> factor.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 1:33 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>
>>>> By the way Chuck, Mikrotik makes an outdoor, PoE powered media
>>>> converter.  Not sure if you've seen it:
>>>> https://mikrotik.com/product/RBFTC11
>>>>
>>>> I have not used it.  I believe it's unmanaged.  It's certainly cheap
>>>> enough.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/8/2018 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Pretty nice.  What is the price?
>>>> What will it talk to on the other end?
>>>>
>>>> Sure could come in handy where you want to mix pon and AE.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:54 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any comments on this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10G OLT SFP+ for Ethernet SFP cages:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://tibitcom.com/wp-content/assets/Tibit-Universal-OLT-SFP-Product-
>>>> Brief-v1.0.pdf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From: *AF mailto:[email protected] on behalf of Adam Moffett
>>>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>>>> *Date: *Monday, October 8, 2018 at 2:50 PM
>>>> *To: *mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected]
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sometimes I've had an ethernet connection be "up" but not pass any
>>>> traffic.  I feel better if there's something I can ping at layer3 on the
>>>> other end.
>>>>
>>>> If I'm being fair, I'd say that condition isn't super common, and when
>>>> it happens you can fix it by resetting either end.  As long as the customer
>>>> is trained to reboot the media converter maybe it's ok.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/8/2018 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If it is up and nothing more than a bridge, you should be able to do
>>>> everything you want to do from the NOC I would think?  Am I naive?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:39 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a bias against unmanaged devices.  I want to be able to prove
>>>> there's connectivity all the way to the customer prem without having anyone
>>>> physically there.  For $60-100 you can have a router or a managed switch.
>>>>
>>>> With ethernet is it sufficient to have an "up" on the switch interface?
>>>>
>>>> I also suppose if they're unmanaged they can't be hacked and don't need
>>>> firmware upgrades.  I could be convinced, but like I said, I have a bias.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/8/2018 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/35333.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It has storage specs to –20C.  Not sure why operating temps are 0C on
>>>> the lower end.  But if it is inside an enclosure it will self heat.
>>>>
>>>> $23 plus the $9 SFP.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/37922.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $32 plus enclosure.  Pretty low cost per customer doing it this way.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I know Sterling uses MTs for much the same thing, but if I remember he
>>>> cannot get the one he likes any longer.
>>>>
>>>> I like this as there is zero config here.  Dumb media converter.  Put
>>>> all your smarts at your router or switch.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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