ZTE deserves the heat. In fact they likely should have not lifted the complete ban.
On Thu, Oct 11, 2018, 12:17 AM Jason McKemie < [email protected]> wrote: > They just seem to have been taking a lot of heat, I can't say for sure > whether it is deserved or not. > > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No, why do you ask? We had an order of maybe 50 ONU last month and have a >> gpon card on the way right now, hopefully. >> >> Chris >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 9:52 PM Jason McKemie < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Are you having supply issues with the ZTE gear? >>> >>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> We tested the UBNT gear back when it first came out. Didnt like their >>>> management system and they changed the temp rating on the ONU to only 0C >>>> which killed a key benefit being able to switch existing wireless customers >>>> using existing cat5 run. >>>> >>>> Happy with ZTE. The ONUs the various models seem to have few different >>>> quirks but overall the platform is stable and mature. We use smartOLT a >>>> third party management system, very nice interface and they know the system >>>> very well and are a good support resource. >>>> >>>> I dont have the $$ for calix adtran etc so this was the only option we >>>> could realistically start using GPON which has really helped us lower cost >>>> in our rural low density FTTH. We use optical tap splitting almost >>>> everywhere to reduce strand count. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 8:08 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> You like it? Have you used other GPON gear? >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien via AF >>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:08 PM >>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>> *Cc:* Chris Fabien >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap >>>>> >>>>> ZTE. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:14 AM <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Whose GPON are you using? >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:51 PM >>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap >>>>>> >>>>>> We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11. Overall very >>>>>> few problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had an SFP fail >>>>>> We normally put them inside another NID but do have a couple >>>>>> installed bare exposed to rain and have been fine. Not really enough room >>>>>> in the FTC11 to just run the drop to it, that's the reason for the NID. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have switched to GPON for new customers but these will stay in >>>>>> service until they have a problem or customer wants IPTV which requires >>>>>> GPON on our network. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 3:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I just noticed the knockouts on it are for a round cable. I wonder >>>>>>> if you are supposed to splice into a round cable at the house, or if >>>>>>> you're >>>>>>> supposed to commit to round drop cable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/8/2018 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheap indeed. Too bad they don’t offer the RB in the same form >>>>>>> factor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 1:33 PM >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> By the way Chuck, Mikrotik makes an outdoor, PoE powered media >>>>>>> converter. Not sure if you've seen it: >>>>>>> https://mikrotik.com/product/RBFTC11 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have not used it. I believe it's unmanaged. It's certainly cheap >>>>>>> enough. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/8/2018 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pretty nice. What is the price? >>>>>>> What will it talk to on the other end? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sure could come in handy where you want to mix pon and AE. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:54 PM >>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any comments on this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 10G OLT SFP+ for Ethernet SFP cages: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tibitcom.com/wp-content/assets/Tibit-Universal-OLT-SFP-Product-Brief-v1.0.pdf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From: *AF mailto:[email protected] on behalf of Adam Moffett >>>>>>> mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> *Date: *Monday, October 8, 2018 at 2:50 PM >>>>>>> *To: *mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected] >>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sometimes I've had an ethernet connection be "up" but not pass any >>>>>>> traffic. I feel better if there's something I can ping at layer3 on the >>>>>>> other end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I'm being fair, I'd say that condition isn't super common, and >>>>>>> when it happens you can fix it by resetting either end. As long as the >>>>>>> customer is trained to reboot the media converter maybe it's ok. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/8/2018 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it is up and nothing more than a bridge, you should be able to do >>>>>>> everything you want to do from the NOC I would think? Am I naive? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:39 PM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a bias against unmanaged devices. I want to be able to prove >>>>>>> there's connectivity all the way to the customer prem without having >>>>>>> anyone >>>>>>> physically there. For $60-100 you can have a router or a managed >>>>>>> switch. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With ethernet is it sufficient to have an "up" on the switch >>>>>>> interface? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I also suppose if they're unmanaged they can't be hacked and don't >>>>>>> need firmware upgrades. I could be convinced, but like I said, I have a >>>>>>> bias. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/8/2018 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/35333.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has storage specs to –20C. Not sure why operating temps are 0C >>>>>>> on the lower end. But if it is inside an enclosure it will self heat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $23 plus the $9 SFP. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/37922.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> $32 plus enclosure. Pretty low cost per customer doing it this >>>>>>> way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know Sterling uses MTs for much the same thing, but if I remember >>>>>>> he cannot get the one he likes any longer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like this as there is zero config here. 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