No, why do you ask? We had an order of maybe 50 ONU last month and have a
gpon card on the way right now, hopefully.

Chris


On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 9:52 PM Jason McKemie <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you having supply issues with the ZTE gear?
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, Chris Fabien <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> We tested the UBNT gear back when it first came out. Didnt like their
>> management system and they changed the temp rating on the ONU to only 0C
>> which killed a key benefit being able to switch existing wireless customers
>> using existing cat5 run.
>>
>> Happy with ZTE. The ONUs the various models seem to have few different
>> quirks but overall the platform is stable and mature. We use smartOLT a
>> third party management system, very nice interface and they know the system
>> very well and are a good support resource.
>>
>> I dont have the $$ for calix adtran etc so this was the only option we
>> could realistically start using GPON which has really helped us lower cost
>> in our rural low density FTTH. We use optical tap splitting almost
>> everywhere to reduce strand count.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 8:08 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You like it?  Have you  used other GPON gear?
>>>
>>> *From:* Chris Fabien via AF
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2018 5:08 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chris Fabien
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>
>>> ZTE.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 11:14 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whose GPON are you using?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chris Fabien
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:51 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>
>>>> We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11.  Overall very few
>>>> problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had an SFP fail
>>>> We normally put them inside another NID but do have a couple installed
>>>> bare exposed to rain and have been fine. Not really enough room in the
>>>> FTC11 to just run the drop to it, that's the reason for the NID.
>>>>
>>>> We have switched to GPON for new customers but these will stay in
>>>> service until they have a problem or customer wants IPTV which requires
>>>> GPON on our network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 3:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I just noticed the knockouts on it are for a round cable.  I wonder if
>>>>> you are supposed to splice into a round cable at the house, or if you're
>>>>> supposed to commit to round drop cable.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/8/2018 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheap indeed.  Too bad they don’t offer the RB in the same form
>>>>> factor.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 1:33 PM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way Chuck, Mikrotik makes an outdoor, PoE powered media
>>>>> converter.  Not sure if you've seen it:
>>>>> https://mikrotik.com/product/RBFTC11
>>>>>
>>>>> I have not used it.  I believe it's unmanaged.  It's certainly cheap
>>>>> enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/8/2018 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty nice.  What is the price?
>>>>> What will it talk to on the other end?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sure could come in handy where you want to mix pon and AE.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:54 PM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments on this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10G OLT SFP+ for Ethernet SFP cages:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://tibitcom.com/wp-content/assets/Tibit-Universal-OLT-SFP-Product-Brief-v1.0.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From: *AF mailto:[email protected] on behalf of Adam Moffett
>>>>> mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> *Reply-To: *AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> *Date: *Monday, October 8, 2018 at 2:50 PM
>>>>> *To: *mailto:[email protected] mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sometimes I've had an ethernet connection be "up" but not pass any
>>>>> traffic.  I feel better if there's something I can ping at layer3 on the
>>>>> other end.
>>>>>
>>>>> If I'm being fair, I'd say that condition isn't super common, and when
>>>>> it happens you can fix it by resetting either end.  As long as the 
>>>>> customer
>>>>> is trained to reboot the media converter maybe it's ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/8/2018 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is up and nothing more than a bridge, you should be able to do
>>>>> everything you want to do from the NOC I would think?  Am I naive?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2018 12:39 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a bias against unmanaged devices.  I want to be able to prove
>>>>> there's connectivity all the way to the customer prem without having 
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> physically there.  For $60-100 you can have a router or a managed switch.
>>>>>
>>>>> With ethernet is it sufficient to have an "up" on the switch interface?
>>>>>
>>>>> I also suppose if they're unmanaged they can't be hacked and don't
>>>>> need firmware upgrades.  I could be convinced, but like I said, I have a
>>>>> bias.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/8/2018 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/35333.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It has storage specs to –20C.  Not sure why operating temps are 0C on
>>>>> the lower end.  But if it is inside an enclosure it will self heat.
>>>>>
>>>>> $23 plus the $9 SFP.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.fs.com/products/37922.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> $32 plus enclosure.  Pretty low cost per customer doing it this way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I know Sterling uses MTs for much the same thing, but if I remember he
>>>>> cannot get the one he likes any longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I like this as there is zero config here.  Dumb media converter.  Put
>>>>> all your smarts at your router or switch.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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