Whose GPON are you using?

From: Chris Fabien 
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap

We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11.  Overall very few 
problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had an SFP fail 
We normally put them inside another NID but do have a couple installed bare 
exposed to rain and have been fine. Not really enough room in the FTC11 to just 
run the drop to it, that's the reason for the NID. 

We have switched to GPON for new customers but these will stay in service until 
they have a problem or customer wants IPTV which requires GPON on our network. 


On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 3:55 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

  I just noticed the knockouts on it are for a round cable.  I wonder if you 
are supposed to splice into a round cable at the house, or if you're supposed 
to commit to round drop cable.



  On 10/8/2018 3:38 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

    Cheap indeed.  Too bad they don’t offer the RB in the same form factor.  

    From: Adam Moffett 
    Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 1:33 PM
    To: [email protected] 
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap

    By the way Chuck, Mikrotik makes an outdoor, PoE powered media converter.  
Not sure if you've seen it:
    https://mikrotik.com/product/RBFTC11

    I have not used it.  I believe it's unmanaged.  It's certainly cheap enough.



    On 10/8/2018 3:02 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

      Pretty nice.  What is the price?
      What will it talk to on the other end?

      Sure could come in handy where you want to mix pon and AE.  

      From: Gino A. Villarini 
      Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:54 PM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap

      Any comments on this?



      10G OLT SFP+ for Ethernet SFP cages:



      
http://tibitcom.com/wp-content/assets/Tibit-Universal-OLT-SFP-Product-Brief-v1.0.pdf







      From: AF mailto:[email protected] on behalf of Adam Moffett 
mailto:[email protected]
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      Date: Monday, October 8, 2018 at 2:50 PM
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      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap



      Sometimes I've had an ethernet connection be "up" but not pass any 
traffic.  I feel better if there's something I can ping at layer3 on the other 
end.

      If I'm being fair, I'd say that condition isn't super common, and when it 
happens you can fix it by resetting either end.  As long as the customer is 
trained to reboot the media converter maybe it's ok.



      On 10/8/2018 2:43 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

        If it is up and nothing more than a bridge, you should be able to do 
everything you want to do from the NOC I would think?  Am I naive?



        From: Adam Moffett 

        Sent: Monday, October 08, 2018 12:39 PM

        To: [email protected] 

        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap



        I have a bias against unmanaged devices.  I want to be able to prove 
there's connectivity all the way to the customer prem without having anyone 
physically there.  For $60-100 you can have a router or a managed switch.

        With ethernet is it sufficient to have an "up" on the switch interface?

        I also suppose if they're unmanaged they can't be hacked and don't need 
firmware upgrades.  I could be convinced, but like I said, I have a bias. 



        On 10/8/2018 12:47 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

          https://www.fs.com/products/35333.html



          It has storage specs to –20C.  Not sure why operating temps are 0C on 
the lower end.  But if it is inside an enclosure it will self heat.  

          $23 plus the $9 SFP.  

          https://www.fs.com/products/37922.html



          $32 plus enclosure.  Pretty low cost per customer doing it this way.  



          I know Sterling uses MTs for much the same thing, but if I remember 
he cannot get the one he likes any longer.

          I like this as there is zero config here.  Dumb media converter.  Put 
all your smarts at your router or switch.  








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