Starlink makes me think of a "Gravity" situation.. If you got a collision in that constellation seems you would put up a "shield" of space junk... Or are my orbital mechanics shorts showing?

On 11/14/2018 11:32 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
Speaking of Iridium. That was only 77 satellites; at least in the original version. How about something like 4400(+) satellites for Starlink? Now that looks "scary".

     (warning, we are getting into thread drift)

How it will work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEIUdMiColU

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On 11/14/2018 11:04 AM, [email protected] wrote:
How about iridium control. Or geo sync data link. Inmarsat. Antenna would be looking up. Harder to jam.
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Now with drones coming our with LTE control… whats the plan?

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So I ended up at their booth today.

The drone detector is kinda cool, might actually be useful for interference hunting, but probably way expensive. They're doing various things with directional antennas operating in a 'radar' type of setup where they use various tight pattern antennas either on an automatic rotator, or handheld to determine the direction a signal is coming from. Nothing really special except the integration is pretty well done....

On the other hand, the jammers get even more scary. Yes, they will only sell them to legitimate users, i.e. miliatary and/or legal government users. So probably have little risk of one showing up in most of our markets, except for of course the fact that the military probably already has similar technology. They've got one which puts 20W each band per sector into 4 sectors to get 360* of blocking. They've also got one which has a pistol grip attached to a directional antenna and somewhat lower output power.

Interesting product, not sure how many of these they're going to sell, although I guess if you got even a small military to buy multiple copies it would probably pay for development. But I sure wouldn't want one of these turned on in my neighborhood.

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 2:02 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

    If you are a smart bad actor,  you will be using bands that are
    not commonly used.

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    I think there are some probably at least somewhat real concerns
    about either bad actors using a Drone for surveillance, or
alternatively there are cases where you need the airspace clear. This should handle both issues, but I'm not sure if either is
    worth wiping  the ism bands for a not small radius.

    They also supposedly have drone detection gear.

    On Wed, Nov 14, 2018, 12:55 AM Matt Hoppes
    <[email protected] wrote:

        The webpage isn’t loading, but I’m not sure what this is
        supposed to accomplish. Any UAV worth it’s weight in salt will
        return home if it loses connection.


        On Nov 13, 2018, at 18:31, <[email protected]> <[email protected]>
        wrote:

            Yeah, 150 watts at 2.4 GHz would be like being near a 150
            watt incandescent light bulb.

            You would certainly feel it.  Might even give you
            permanent cornea damage.

            *From:*Ken Hohhof

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            A “backpack” jammer with 120 watts output power? I hope
            they mean backpack size, not that someone would literally
wear that on their back while it was transmitting. Oooooooh, suddenly I feel all warm and tingly!

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            I'm at a trade show this week (attending, not exhibiting),
            and one of the exhibitors is selling this:

            http://www.aaronia.com/Datasheets/Documents/Portable-UAV-Jammer.pdf

            Anyone want to venture a guess how long it will be before
            one of these (or some similar product) shows up in the
            middle of someone's network?

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